Pound for Pound is About SKILLS not OPPOSITION

[IMDAZED]

Threadstarter has failed boxing 101. How the hell do you measure skills?

[loui_ludwig]

So, IF Pacquiao beats Cotto, Mosley, P. Williams, and Margarito(remember an IF situation only), his not P4P 1.

[IMDAZED]

So, IF Pacquiao beats Cotto, Mosley, P. Williams, and Margarito(remember an IF situation only), his not P4P 1.

Even if he beats Wladimir he's still not skilled enough.

[Roger Mellie]

I'm getting tired of Pacman nuthuggers hating on Floyd's recent placement back atop the P4P rankings due to the fact that he fought a guy moving up.

The fact is, by the pure definition of the term POUND FOR POUND Floyd is #1, not Pacman. Pound for Pound has nothing to do with who you fight, or who is the best at your weight division. I found it so laughable when I heard a Cotto nuthugger say that Cotto should be P4P ahead of Mayweather because Cotto has proven himself at 147 and thus is the king of 147 and Mayweather is not. Um..what the hell does 147 have to do with p4p? Absolutely nothing.
Pound for pound means that given the same size/physical advantages, the fighter rated p4p higher will always win and beat someone ranked p4p lower than him.
With that said what the hell does fighting Marquez have to do with the fact that at equal weights Floyd would demolish Pacquaio and school him even worse than he schooled JMM?
Given these obvious assertions, it is clear that Floyd Mayweather is pound for pound #1 in the world right now as he was before his retirement.

Keep in mind that who you fight has SOME bearing on it but ONLY in the sense that it gives a measurement of what your boxing ability truly is. And in the end the P4P ranking is all about BOXING ABILITY not resumes.
HOW you win a fight is more important for P4P rankings than who you fight.
I.E. going life and death with JMM twice for Pac, and easily dominating him 120-107 for Mayweather. That's the P4P difference.

That is completely and wholly inaccurate. The definition of p4p is as follows.

In a hypothetical matchup,stripping away things such as weight,size,age etc. and given a level playing field,the best overall fighter would come out on top.

For instance,given a level playing field, I doubt Mayweather v Marquez would have looked anything like the debacle we had the misfortune to witness the other night.

[Roger Mellie]

Threadstarter has failed boxing 101. How the hell do you measure skills?

Clearly in this instance,by the number of hypnotised devotees rallying around their messiah!

[fdotorres]

Floyd fought the best.
It's simply that

1. He didn't fight "the biggest" according to some haters. But history shows that "the biggest aren't the best." Everyone claimed Margarito was "the best" at WW and Floyd ducked him but in fact he was simply the biggest and he sucks **** cus Mosley knocked him into next week like he was a cab driving bum.
2. He constantly makes the "best" look so paltry by comparison that people continually deride his fights.

what good WW has he fought?

[SkilledB]

bwahahahahahahahahahahaha

Thats worse post ever hands down.

PACQUIAO is best fighter P4P.

FLOYD shouldnt be ranked in TOP 5.

He should stop duckin MOSLEY.

PACQUIAO murder DE LA HOYA,and HATTON.

MAYWEATHER won controversial SD,and FLOYD SR. said HOYA won that fight.

MAYWEATHER strugle with HATTON.

PACQUIAO murder HATTON in 2 rounds.

may diddnt struggle, for one there are 2 different styles, may is defensive pac is a going forward type of guy.

pac beat a zombie dlh at 147 when floyd beat a better version at 154.

do u recall mosley backing out of the fight because of a "toothache" years ago?

[handwraps]

i'm getting tired of pacman nuthuggers hating on floyd's recent placement back atop the p4p rankings due to the fact that he fought a guy moving up.

The fact is, by the pure definition of the term pound for pound floyd is #1, not pacman. Pound for pound has nothing to do with who you fight, or who is the best at your weight division. I found it so laughable when i heard a cotto nuthugger say that cotto should be p4p ahead of mayweather because cotto has proven himself at 147 and thus is the king of 147 and mayweather is not. Um..what the hell does 147 have to do with p4p? Absolutely nothing.
Pound for pound means that given the same size/physical advantages, the fighter rated p4p higher will always win and beat someone ranked p4p lower than him.
With that said what the hell does fighting marquez have to do with the fact that at equal weights floyd would demolish pacquaio and school him even worse than he schooled jmm?
Given these obvious assertions, it is clear that floyd mayweather is pound for pound #1 in the world right now as he was before his retirement.

Keep in mind that who you fight has some bearing on it but only in the sense that it gives a measurement of what your boxing ability truly is. And in the end the p4p ranking is all about boxing ability not resumes.
How you win a fight is more important for p4p rankings than who you fight.
I.e. Going life and death with jmm twice for pac, and easily dominating him 120-107 for mayweather. That's the p4p difference.

who you fight does matter obviously if you fight opponents yr sure you can beat youll look amazing. While another fighting people who pose a risk to them look lesser than you. Not because they are but because they challenge themselves more. And pound for pound rankings are for the best in the sport that s why you fight the best.

[Chups]

I'm getting tired of Pacman nuthuggers hating on Floyd's recent placement back atop the P4P rankings due to the fact that he fought a guy moving up.

The fact is, by the pure definition of the term POUND FOR POUND Floyd is #1, not Pacman. Pound for Pound has nothing to do with who you fight, or who is the best at your weight division. I found it so laughable when I heard a Cotto nuthugger say that Cotto should be P4P ahead of Mayweather because Cotto has proven himself at 147 and thus is the king of 147 and Mayweather is not. Um..what the hell does 147 have to do with p4p? Absolutely nothing.
Pound for pound means that given the same size/physical advantages, the fighter rated p4p higher will always win and beat someone ranked p4p lower than him.
With that said what the hell does fighting Marquez have to do with the fact that at equal weights Floyd would demolish Pacquaio and school him even worse than he schooled JMM?
Given these obvious assertions, it is clear that Floyd Mayweather is pound for pound #1 in the world right now as he was before his retirement.

Keep in mind that who you fight has SOME bearing on it but ONLY in the sense that it gives a measurement of what your boxing ability truly is. And in the end the P4P ranking is all about BOXING ABILITY not resumes.
HOW you win a fight is more important for P4P rankings than who you fight.
I.E. going life and death with JMM twice for Pac, and easily dominating him 120-107 for Mayweather. That's the P4P difference.

It's about accomplishments and resumes...not skills. There are fighters out there who a better skilled than floyd but are not in the top ten because they have fought nobody's just like Floyd.

[Chups]

So, IF Pacquiao beats Cotto, Mosley, P. Williams, and Margarito(remember an IF situation only), his not P4P 1.

Can you imagine, if a fighter was lucky enough to beat all the great fighters he still won't be in the list coz he won by luck and not by skills.....LOL!! Idiotic thread starter.