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  • Legends456
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    #31
    Originally posted by Regge

    Im European and I wish our fighters could incorporate more of th Mexican style of going to the body and head and figting with more aggression

    our euro fighters tend to be pretty straight up with nonexistent body punching.
    I get what you’re saying. I agree there is some good to the Mexican style, but as a half-Mexican American and familiar with the culture and some of the boxing culture, I think there is too much a focus on machismo and they take too much punishment to give out punishment and I’d like to see more of the younger Mexican boxers take the good of the Mexican Fighting School and leave off some of the walking through punches stuff and incorporate more defensive skills. I’d like to see Mexican boxing improve and evolve. And I’d like to see more Mexican heavyweights. It’s not like all Mexico is just small people, it’s a diverse country and there are tall people, maybe they just don’t go into boxing as much. Would love to see more Mexican heavyweights than just Ruiz.

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    • Regge
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      #32
      Originally posted by Legends456

      I get what you’re saying. I agree there is some good to the Mexican style, but as a half-Mexican American and familiar with the culture and some of the boxing culture, I think there is too much a focus on machismo and they take too much punishment to give out punishment and I’d like to see more of the younger Mexican boxers take the good of the Mexican Fighting School and leave off some of the walking through punches stuff and incorporate more defensive skills. I’d like to see Mexican boxing improve and evolve. And I’d like to see more Mexican heavyweights. It’s not like all Mexico is just small people, it’s a diverse country and there are tall people, maybe they just don’t go into boxing as much. Would love to see more Mexican heavyweights than just Ruiz.
      Point is all fighters have flaws.

      Bjs, sunny Edward, Joshua, Smith, barret etc all very flawed fighters.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Legends456

        I don’t think anyone is honestly bashing Mexican boxing history on here, or if it is, I haven’t seen it.

        As disclosed in a different post, I got really pissed at Canelo for failing the steroids test and so I have bashed HIM in posts, but it’s half joking, he IS one of the better boxers in this era with a great career resume.

        I like Andy Ruiz a lot though and want to see him fight and beat Wilder, although I’m not too confident that he will be successful when it happens.

        We can be proud of Mexican boxing history, I just think our guys tend to be a bit slow and plodding and so I’m not a huge fan of the “Mexican style”. I wish our boxing culture could incorporate some of the slickness of Urban American and Euro-Gypsy styles like Mayweather and Fury and such. It might serve Mexican boxing well in the long run. And to bring this full circle, Canelo HAS done some of that and although I’m not exactly a fan of his, I appreciate that and hope the younger Mexican and Mexican American fighters can learn from that example he took.
        1. Akhi Tv race baits and conspires to attract and please his target audience, he has 150k viewers.

        2. He is Arabic.

        3. For defensive styles like Canelo, I haven't seen anyone trying to replicate him but Jesse Bam Rodriguez and Emiliano Vargas replied that their styles are based on Lomachenko with Robert Garcia stating that Jesse also took inspiration from Orlando Canizales.

        Even though Vargas is unproven he looks promising.

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        • Zaroku
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          #34
          Originally posted by Regge

          Lol are you new

          Canelo who just beat arguably the greatest Eastern euro again.

          Zepeda who just whoopd Jojo better than Haney

          Estrada Wins over choco and trilogy next

          Lara the engish killer is a force

          And thats not counting Mexican Americans

          Garcia
          vergil
          Bam Rodriguez
          Benavidez

          Mexican boxing is arguably doing better than any other country.
          Spoken like a true fan of boxing!

          I go to Mexico regularly to visit family and to go to Baja Califas.

          I go to gyms to watch -observe and eat tamales!

          I’m Mexican American

          respect to you my friend

          respect!

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          • MulaKO
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            #35
            Originally posted by Zaroku

            Spoken like a true fan of boxing!

            I go to Mexico regularly to visit family and to go to Baja Califas.

            I go to gyms to watch -observe and eat tamales!

            I’m Mexican American

            respect to you my friend

            respect!
            Fought you brother Zaroku
            You Just storm in and throw props and all c
            Talkin how you get back to the homeland and all
            But not a fughin word about Johnie
            Really ?

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              #36
              Originally posted by Regge

              Im European and I wish our fighters could incorporate more of th Mexican style of going to the body and head and figting with more aggression

              our euro fighters tend to be pretty straight up with nonexistent body punching.
              I highly doubt you are European. Where are you from? Europe is a large place so calling a continent a single style makes no sense. Even within countries there are different styles.

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              • tritium_arma
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                #37
                Originally posted by El Escorpion
                I am not going to discredit Bivol overwhelming wins over Canelo and Zurdo, the former supermiddleweight champion had already fought multiple fighters that are larger than Bivol in actuality in Saunders, Plant, and Kolavev so there shouldn't be excuses on why he lost, and Zurdo was a big ass cruiserweight with a 44-0-0 record despite being unaccomplished.

                But why try to discredit Mexico's boxing history despite that in the last 100 years they have produced outstanding talent like JCC, Morales, Barrera, JMM, Saldivar, Sanchez, Zarate, Olivares, Casanova, Arizmendi and etc.

                Right now, besides Canelo there isn't really outstanding talent but that doesn't erase Mexico's boxing accomplishments from the past.

                There are also European and American boxers at the light heavyweight division, yet I doubt there is anyone of note that can beat Bivol other than a declining Beterviev at the moment.​
                The most popular fighters also get the most haters - Canelo, Fury, Joshua, Tank etc. Boxing is also very tribal, so when haters see Canelo lose they **** on the fighter's nationality as well.

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                • Zaroku
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by MulaKO

                  Fought you brother Zaroku
                  You Just storm in and throw props and all c
                  Talkin how you get back to the homeland and all
                  But not a fughin word about Johnie
                  Really ?
                  Jhonny got a last gig he gonna put in work
                  I get pick of the litter

                  I can’t imagine getting paid for being good looking

                  My wife said Jhonny has a horses kok

                  I never had a dog with this much attitude

                  X — my pit bull was no bark all muscle
                  while he was a pup he got parvo and the vet write him off
                  i got him medicine and sat there with mr x

                  he survived

                  and I was happy

                  Now I’m going to feed Jhonny beef

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                  • Zaroku
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Legends456

                    I get what you’re saying. I agree there is some good to the Mexican style, but as a half-Mexican American and familiar with the culture and some of the boxing culture, I think there is too much a focus on machismo and they take too much punishment to give out punishment and I’d like to see more of the younger Mexican boxers take the good of the Mexican Fighting School and leave off some of the walking through punches stuff and incorporate more defensive skills. I’d like to see Mexican boxing improve and evolve. And I’d like to see more Mexican heavyweights. It’s not like all Mexico is just small people, it’s a diverse country and there are tall people, maybe they just don’t go into boxing as much. Would love to see more Mexican heavyweights than just Ruiz.
                    Spoken like a man who knows Mexican boxing

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                    • Madison Boxing
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                      #40
                      not hating, that marquez/morales/barrera era is probably my favourite and mexican fighters are warriors for the most part but got to be honest 9 times out of 10 i see a mexican in there against someone with a bit of movement and defence they end up losing, usually by a distance

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