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  • #81
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

    I never said Callum was a bum after having a bad night against Ryder. I pointed out that Canelo wanted nothing to do with him until that bad night. Then Callum was only given a few weeks to train to weaken him further. This was in a pandemic environment too. Canelo also knew how bad it would be to bring his huge frame down in such a short period of time.

    I don't give credit to anyone who intentionally sabotages fighters to gain a mass of advantages. Canelo does this on a consistent level.
    You have your narrative. Stick with it. Canelo is the dark overlord of boxing and can manipulate the sport better than Al Haymon apparently.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

      Gonzales
      Usyk
      AJ
      Fury
      Taylor
      Golovkin
      Lomachenko
      Bivol
      Lara

      All these have better resumes than Canelo. I don't include robberies as part of any fighters resume. I don't include shot to pieces fighters or much smaller either.
      You are ill.

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      • #83
        Ward was a very good fighter but he’s a bit of a head case. He should have made a lot more money than he did and now he sees the fortunes accrued by Canelo and Golovkin and it must irk him. He could have made more but he outgrew 168 and 175 was a minefield.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

          Gonzales
          Usyk
          AJ
          Fury
          Taylor
          Golovkin
          Lomachenko
          Bivol
          Lara

          All these have better resumes than Canelo. I don't include robberies as part of any fighters resume. I don't include shot to pieces fighters or much smaller either.
          Lol c'mon man you cant be serious with that list are u ,funny thing is that canelo actually fought 3 from that list.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll View Post

            You have your narrative. Stick with it. Canelo is the dark overlord of boxing and can manipulate the sport better than Al Haymon apparently.
            So Canelo didn't intentionally give Callum 3 weeks to prepare and duck him before the Ryder fight? He didn't duck Saunders for years because "He has a boring style" but then wanted to fight him after looking like shlt against Coceres? Again, before that fight, Canelo had zero intention of fighting him. He didn't fight Khan who is a Welter when there perfectly good middleweights to fight? He didn't fight a Lightweight in Lopez? he didn't want to fight Ortiz who was also a Welter?

            Canelo didn't duck Golovkin for years with him waiting to age him and drop the WBC title after saying "Mexicans don't f3ck around"? He then didn't lose both fights and get gifts? He didn't get a gift against Lara? He didn't fight Kovalev with the conditions that he fight only weeks after his last one without resting his body properly? Canelo didn't drain him with a rehydration contract? Canelo didn't do the same to Fielding who isn't even close to being world level? He didn't fight Yildrim who had been out of the ring for 2 years? He didn't drain a shot Chavez Jr? He didn't fight a shot Angulo coming straight from a stoppage loss? He didn't fight a shot Kirkland who had been out of the ring for 17 months? Canelo didn't fight a non-world class Matthew Hatton from Welterweight for the Lightmiddleweight title? Hatton wasn't even in line for a title shot at Welter. But he all of a sudden got a ranking a weight class upwards?

            Canelo didn't fight with Liam Smith when he had actual known fighters from the US that he needed to sell on American PPV? A smith who had never been near world class?

            I could be here all day with this. If you believe anything different to reality, then you're biased and want to protect the fraud. Canelo is a cancer to boxing.
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            • #86
              Originally posted by vital1983 View Post

              Comparing Gatti to Canelo...I'll leave it, and you there...
              I didn’t compare Gatti to Ward simpleton. I was comparing the ability he had in his 20’s as opposed to his late 30’s. If you have any knowledge of boxing, you can tell the difference in his speed, reaction times, offensive output etc. If it makes you feel better, You can compare Gatti to Guerrero , berto, or maidana and still won’t see that version of Floyd in his late 30’s. Not for nothing but Canelo didn’t do better than any of the guys mentioned above.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll View Post

                You are ill.
                Apart from Jacobs and Saunders, who did Canelo beat that was legitimate world class? I'm all ears.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by HeyDeebo! View Post

                  Lol c'mon man you cant be serious with that list are u ,funny thing is that canelo actually fought 3 from that list.
                  Yeah, but he lost to all 3. They have better resumes.

                  Apart from Saunders and Jacobs, who did Canelo beat who was at world level and not shot, sabotaged, smaller or ripped off of their legitimate win?

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                  • #89
                    A lot of people in these comments are deflecting.

                    Instead of actually analyzing what Ward said, you guys just right away start attacking Ward.

                    The big problem in doing that, is Ward isn’t the issue at hand.

                    You all going, “Ward jealous. What about Wards resume.” Why are you guys making this about Ward?

                    Its not a “Ward resume vs Canelo resume.” That’s not what this is. Ward isn’t like Floyd. He’s not making it about himself. Stop making it like that, because that’s not what it’s about.

                    It’s about Canelo and only Canelo. Ward retired. Talk less about Ward, and more about Canelo. That’s it.

                    My thoughts. Canelo is great, but the positive steroids test can’t be ignored. Boxing has been kind to Canelo on the scorecards and he always seems to get the close decisions. What he did at 168 was an accomplishment and one he deserves credit for. Those guys were recognized champions, but they weren’t killers.

                    He has a few misses on his resume. He’s great, but I think a lot of people overrate him.

                    Say what you want about Benavitez or his lacking resume, but if Benavitez would be easy work for Canelo, why doesn’t Canelo fight him then???

                    It’s a bout that a lot of people have talked about and want to see. A true P4P champion would give the people what they want to see.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                      Yeah, but he lost to all 3. They have better resumes.

                      Apart from Saunders and Jacobs, who did Canelo beat who was at world level and not shot, sabotaged, smaller or ripped off of their legitimate win?
                      Last time I check canelo was 3-1-1 against those 3 from your list all world class and besides the other 2 u mentioned you can add trout and callum smith for example,both undefeated champions at time gingerhead beat em. Both legitimate wins in my book.

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