Comments Thread For: Hearn: I Don't See Oleksandr Usyk Losing a Round To Deontay Wilder

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  • P to the J
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    #41
    Someone else here said it: it’s 12-0 Usyk, or Wilder connects with something, because Usyk is not knocking anyone out at this weight.

    Worth noting that AJ couldn’t land anything clean on Usyk over 2 fights, and Wilder doesn’t set up anywhere near as good as AJ or anyone even resembling a boxer, TBH.

    Other considerations are that Wilder is more explosive, and can go from nought to the speed of sound in very little time with certain shots (not the ****ing overhand right which can be seen coming from space)
    If Usyk gets sloppy or loses a step by the time he nexts gets in the ring, who knows? Stars might align.

    But as it stands, Wilder is highly predictable, and only horrible footwork in specific moments stood between Fury being on the canvas and staying upright, because he saw those shots every time.

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      #42
      Originally posted by punishing
      Probably true but I also dont see Usyk surviving like Fury did is Wilder did connect on him.
      Why? Wilder puts people down a lot but usually they get back up. Usyk took a huge shot from Gassiev and didn’t go down. Wilder is a donkey remember and Usyk will toy with him all night

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      • TMLT87
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        #43
        If Usyk lost that fight it wouldnt be in a losing rounds getting outboxed kinda way, it'd be a winning the fight then SPLAT where the **** am I kinda way.

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          #44
          Eddie is insane. There is no way at that 36 years old that Usyk won't get caught or clipped by Deontay Wilder. It's just not possible. Wilder is not a high volume puncher but he is very accurate one.

          Deontay has that equalizer and once he lands and connects on a fatigued and stationary Oleksandr Usyk the fight would be a wrap. Usyk is too small to absorb that kind of punching power from Deontay Wilder.

          He can run but he can't hide. We are not talking about some 6 foot 9 inch man here who weighs close to 300 lbs.

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            #45
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
            Me neither. Usyk wins every single round against Wilder.

            Before he gets stopped eventually.

            IF Usyk survives 12 rounds, he wins 12-0 in rounds. But it is a big IF.

            Honestly, I don`t think Usyk can avoid all Wilder`s bombs.
            You are right and I agree with you and especially for twelve rounds. It's just not possible.

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              #46
              Originally posted by juggernaut666

              Wilder doesn’t have some great chin that’s just not going to get into any realistic conversation at least with me .

              It wouldn’t matter what power Fury has ,someone , anyone coming off two bad knockouts isn’t going to be improving taking shots , We’ve all seen Wilder hurt ,buzzed and get breaks in fights so again Wilder is not impossible to stop ,one with Usyks ability can stop anyone giving right moment and Wilder will be making tons of mistakes in that one that’s guaranteed to happen if it goes to the championship rounds .
              How is he going to knockout Wilder when he couldn't knockout Anthony Joshua or even Dereck Chisora at heavyweight? You must remember that Usyk is a blown up heavyweight with his greatest attribute being his speed.

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                #47
                I agree, I don't think Usyk can lose a round to Wilder or get beaten, unless Wilder lands a few big ones, because he'll need more than one punch, to ko Usyk.

                Wilder can't box much, he doesn't even do bare basics that well, just relies on a big right hand. But to be fair, he did show he could box a bit in the first Stiverne fight.

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                  #48
                  Of course Hearn will say this cause Usyk smoked AJ so this makes him feel better. Difference is Wilder will certainly let his hands go more than Aj thus having the better chance to KO Usyk. Wilder has the balls as he has shown in his fights with fury, Aj not so much.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Patsfan bri
                    Of course Hearn will say this cause Usyk smoked AJ so this makes him feel better. Difference is Wilder will certainly let his hands go more than Aj thus having the better chance to KO Usyk. Wilder has the balls as he has shown in his fights with fury, Aj not so much.
                    Balls are all well and good but letting his hands go against Usyk would be suicide.

                    I see Wilder and Usyk standing well apart. Pre Fury, Wilder was happy to wait for fighters to come to him. He's got the length and speed to get them on the way in.

                    I rate Usyk very, very highly but I see Wilder beating him by stoppage. Usyk will throw ten times as many punches, he'll win every round, but he won't damage Wilder enough and he'll eventually get bombed out

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                      #50
                      A while ago, I decided to rarely comment on this forum because I became increasingly irritated by the growing fanaticism towards boxers and promoters; the latter being unbelievable. However, I never stopped reading comments; you just never know when an insightful one would spring up.
                      After going through lots of comments here, you would be forgiven to think Wilder would jump at the slightest chance to fight Usyk. As his fans would say, he has the equalizer, remember?

                      Some have claimed he would surely connect in a 12 round fight and that WHENEVER he does, it's either lights-out, a KD or the opponent gets really hurt (all three are fat lies). Such commenters only spurt out what they hope for and not what the evidence suggest.

                      He has fought many limited fighters, mind you, but let's not go into that.

                      He landed CLEAN against a limited fighter in Artur Szpilka in earlier rounds prior to the KO; two instances I clearly remember, one of which Spilka even mockingly smiled and shrugged. Some persons forget that, ignore it, or maybe missed it perhaps because it doesn't support the narrative.

                      Against Duhaupas, the clean/landed punches were countless yet the French man didn't go down once nor appear really hurt, and was only stopped on his feet in the 11th.

                      Those guys were never world-beaters prior nor after.

                      I can go on and on, but there is no point. Some persons think that if they continue to push a certain narrative, it makes it true. People get easily manipulated but not me. I think for myself.

                      It's been about a week since the Ukrainian made public his intentions and even promised to be ringside for Wilder's upcoming fight. But all we've got from Wilder has been 'crickets'. Many fighters, let alone a confident one, would jump at the opportunity to fight for 3 belts and a bag full of money, but perhaps not Wilder. And there is a reason for that. Unlike his fan boys, he and his management know about all the fat lies, propaganda, and exaggerated abilities, all rolled into one. Of course, Wilder/Ruiz wouldn't generate more money than one with Usyk; not even close.

                      Maybe we should first wait for the Helenius fight to be over before we expect any buzz for the next. Maybe. It certainly hasn't stopped him from talking about other fighters though.

                      In fact, I would be shocked if the Usyk fight happens. I really want it, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

                      I have my opinion though on how I believe such a match up plays out, but I will leave that for another day... or another year.

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