Comments Thread For: Wilder on Joshua: 'They Made Anthony Joshua ... They Gave Him Everything'

[FreezeIzGawd]

If Wilder had only agreed to fight Joshua years ago, for any amount of money, he would have knocked him out, and would have been the unified champ, if only for a little while.

Gawd here we go again. Revisionist history. He had agreed to fight AJ in England for 15 million flat and AJ still backed out. It was only after AJ was left in the cold by Wilder and Fury did he even mention Wilder’s name.

He said Wilder wasn’t a name and didn’t deserve the fight.

AJ lost and that’s when he started talking about fighting Wilder

[JayCho]

Don’t take it personal. There are plenty of others who make similar comments. There is no way to disprove someone’s personal spin on facts. Its just plain to see that you and Deontay Wilder would rather put your own personal spin on facts then just accepting the bare facts as they are. Anthony Joshua lost to one of the best fighters in the sport by split decision. He easily outboxed Andy Ruiz in a rematch. Deontay Wilder got beatdown and knocked out twice in a row. The bare facts. No spin.

People seem to forget the other fact that Wilder is fighting Helenius, who is widely regarded as having lost to Chisora in 2011. Looks like it’s Wilder fighting bums again

[JayCho]

Gawd when people blatantly lie it takes a lot out of their statements. Wilder tried to fight Povetkin BEFORE AJ but Dude got popped for drugs. He also called out and tried to unify his title with Parker but AJ came offered more money and Joe took that fight.

Its strange how people really use opinions and make them FACTS

Wilder was on the next plane out of Russia when Povetkin got popped for drugs but kept fighting the cheater Fury again and again so that doesn’t make sense.

Also, calling out Parker isn’t actually making the fight so yes that is a fact, he called him out and that’s about it.

[Toffee]

Hes obviously bitter about not getting the kind of fame and money AJ did but at the end of the day, he turned pro in 2008 and it was until 2018 that he started taking the kind of fights that can actually make you a star. Joshua was fighting Wlad less than 4 years after turning pro while Wilder was fighting Gerald Washington in Alabama around the same time. He obviously overlooks stuff like that though because as the Fury fights showed us he lacks self awareness and the ability to see and address his own problems.

Joshua is a great example of how you make a fighter.

Everything he got, he earned. Boxing is pretty brutal - if you make it to this kind of level you've got something special about you.

Wilder had some great attributes, but ambition wasn't one of them.

Don't try, don't get.

[juggernaut666]

Gawd when people blatantly lie it takes a lot out of their statements. Wilder tried to fight Povetkin BEFORE AJ but Dude got popped for drugs. He also called out and tried to unify his title with Parker but AJ came offered more money and Joe took that fight.

Its strange how people really use opinions and make them FACTS

Povetkin wasn’t a champion and was cleared 6 months after that fiasco ,when Wilder was offered the fight again he chose Arreola on short notice instead of backing his words up .

Wilder was not interested in Parker otherwise the fight would have been made ,instead typical Wilder said boxing is a business and fans need to be patient so Joshua took it .

[Jab jab boom]

Don’t take it personal. There are plenty of others who make similar comments. There is no way to disprove someone’s personal spin on facts. Its just plain to see that you and Deontay Wilder would rather put your own personal spin on facts then just accepting the bare facts as they are. Anthony Joshua lost to one of the best fighters in the sport by split decision. He easily outboxed Andy Ruiz in a rematch. Deontay Wilder got beatdown and knocked out twice in a row. The bare facts. No spin.

I personally don’t care about Wilder and consider him a limited brawler who got stopped by the best hw of this era. Aj lost to 2 significant underdogs who were never champions at hw until beating him. Not good comparisons. So you’re just making an assumption of me being a wilder fan based off of your obvious fandom for Aj. I didn’t add any spin on my comments. You’re the one adding the spin. Especially referencing a “split decision “ loss to Usyk. We all know he didn’t deserve a split decision. Both wins were clear despite shady scoring. It’s accurate to say Usyk never looked good at hw which is the reason Aj was favored. He exposed Ajs limitations and lack of heart, which we knew was there when Ruiz made him quit. And saying Ruiz got even fatter from the first match is also a known fact and saying Aj fought a cautious and timid rematch is also common knowledge. Just because these statements hurt your feelings doesn’t make them any less accurate.

[SN!PER]

People seem to forget the other fact that Wilder is fighting Helenius, who is widely regarded as having lost to Chisora in 2011. Looks like it’s Wilder fighting bums again

Helenius ain't bad of a fighter. Knocked out Kownacki twice, so he deserves a step up.

Chisora is underrated himself. 12 solid rounds with Usyk, followed by 24 with Parker last year.

Anyway, it's a decent non-title fight, which is how boxers stay active when the champions aren't available.

[juggernaut666]

Helenius ain't bad of a fighter. Knocked out Kownacki twice, so he deserves a step up.

Chisora is underrated himself. 12 solid rounds with Usyk, followed by 24 with Parker last year.

Anyway, it's a decent non-title fight, which is how boxers stay active when the champions aren't available.

The problem is posters can’t keep up with their fictional posts , they dont keep the same energy most the time and pick and choose when a win is good or not relevant.

When Whyte defeated Chisora he was Furys left overs but when Parkers won he got full credit for it , when Whyte defeated Helenius he was a bum because it went the distance but now Helenius is all of a sudden a good opponent again in a top fight ? What ? Lol


The hard truth is most don’t know what they’re talking about on here and are mainly here for stating whatever narrative suits them not the facts but that’s why it’s boxing scene .

Is Helenius a good opponent for Wilder ? Not if we’re using the boxing scene logics and keeping the same energy to who others are fighting if one guy is getting critiqued on his resume . Chisora was actually criticized on here for wanting Wilder but Helenius was accepted think about that one . Lol

[peplz]

I personally don’t care about Wilder and consider him a limited brawler who got stopped by the best hw of this era. Aj lost to 2 significant underdogs who were never champions at hw until beating him. Not good comparisons. So you’re just making an assumption of me being a wilder fan based off of your obvious fandom for Aj. I didn’t add any spin on my comments. You’re the one adding the spin. Especially referencing a “split decision “ loss to Usyk. We all know he didn’t deserve a split decision. Both wins were clear despite shady scoring. It’s accurate to say Usyk never looked good at hw which is the reason Aj was favored. He exposed Ajs limitations and lack of heart, which we knew was there when Ruiz made him quit. And saying Ruiz got even fatter from the first match is also a known fact and saying Aj fought a cautious and timid rematch is also common knowledge. Just because these statements hurt your feelings doesn’t make them any less accurate.

Literally everything you said is all spin. I mean 100% spin. Tyson Fury being the best of this era is strictly your opinion. I have never heard anyone else say that. Anthony Joshua quitting against Ruiz is strictly a spin that was originally put out into the media by none other than Deontay Wilder himself. Literally no one said that until Deontay Wilder went all over social media saying it. Anthony Joshua had an immediate rematch with Andy Ruiz and beat him easily. Alexander Usyk has one of the most extensive and decorated amateur and professional backgrounds of any current boxer in the sport and is at the top at the top of multiple p4p lists. Him being an underdog or not looking good at “heavy weigh” is strictly your opinion that you are attempting to use as a spin on facts. Joshua loss one very closely scored unanimous decision and another split decision to him as a matter of FACT. How you felt about the scoring is your opinion that you are trying to use to place a spin on the actual facts. What is going on in anyone’s heart is something that you could never know. Once again even talking about that is just you placing your own personal spin. What “we all know” is just your own personal opinion that you are trying to pretend that everyone else shares because it suits your fabricated narrative. You’re even trying to put a spin on my comment by talking about my feelings. You don’t even know me. So you have no way of even having the slightest idea about how I feel. You’re just adding your own spin. But hey, thanks for helping me make my point.

[Jab jab boom]

Literally everything you said is all spin. I mean 100% spin. Tyson Fury being the best of this era is strictly your opinion. I have never heard anyone else say that. Anthony Joshua quitting against Ruiz is strictly a spin that was originally put out into the media by none other than Deontay Wilder himself. Literally no one said that until Deontay Wilder went all over social media saying it. Anthony Joshua had an immediate rematch with Andy Ruiz and beat him easily. Alexander Usyk has one of the most extensive and decorated amateur and professional backgrounds of any current boxer in the sport and is at the top at the top of multiple p4p lists. Him being an underdog or not looking good at “heavy weigh” is strictly your opinion that you are attempting to use as a spin on facts. Joshua loss one very closely scored unanimous decision and another split decision to him as a matter of FACT. How you felt about the scoring is your opinion that you are trying to use to place a spin on the actual facts. What is going on in anyone’s heart is something that you could never know. Once again even talking about that is just you placing your own personal spin. What “we all know” is just your own personal opinion that you are trying to pretend that everyone else shares because it suits your fabricated narrative. You’re even trying to put a spin on my comment by talking about my feelings. You don’t even know me. So you have no way of even having the slightest idea about how I feel. You’re just adding your own spin. But hey, thanks for helping me make my point.

I could break down every inaccuracy in your novel above but you’re clearly living in a world of delusion. Nothing you’re stating is accurate, especially blaming wilder for the narrative that Aj quit. The dazn announcer literally says “he quit” at the close of the ko. So how is wilder to blame? The rest of your points make it clear that you’re in’s denial about fury’s status among today’s heavyweights, how Usyk looked as a heavyweight before beating Joshua and your weak attempt to pretend a split decision was justified in the rematch. That’s how I know you’re emotional about this. You’ve lost touch with reality all in an attempt to defend Aj.