I had it 115-113 canelo it was close

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  • Boxing-1013
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    #21
    Originally posted by satiev1

    Exactly and people are acting like ggg didn't win the last 4 rds when canelo gassed and didn't do **** and there were close rds as well in the first half
    Yeah I have no idea what people see when they score GGG fights. It was a tactical battle most of the early rounds, and you could argue Canelo won his share by landing the harder shots at times, but GGG's activity was still there and pretty high.

    His jab still lands often, clean and hard. Idk, people have just ruined GGG fights. They are way too emotional about him and can't score his fights at all.

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      #22
      It was trash and wasn't even close.

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        #23
        The only fighter genuinely hurt during the fight was Canelo.

        Golovkin only needed one more round for a draw. I don't see how it could be closer.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Boxing-1013

          Smith was getting beat up at the end lol. Not a good parallel I would say. This fight was more of a chess match fight. Smith-Canelo was a beatdown that Canelo continued from what Ryder did to Smith.

          Yes it was fought more tactically tonight, at Canelo's pace. But to me that shouldn't mean that Canelo gets every round like that by default. As I said, anyone saying the first 2 rounds were obvious rounds for Canelo and couldn't go to GGG, I just have no idea what you guys are doing scoring fights to be honest. Like I just really have no idea what you're looking at.

          Watch round 1 and tell me how many punches you have GGG landing. Compubox had 3. I had at least 3 for him in the first 30 seconds. Just seems like people don't often times score or register his jab, which is odd to me, because it usually lands clean and hard and is easy to score for me.
          If he's controlling the pace while throwing and landing more he should and that's what happened for most of the fight.

          Not comparing the fights but in terms of caution, GGG fought a very similar fight to Smith in that he didn't seem comfortable letting his hands go until the second half and seemed content just going the distance. Different fights, similar approaches.

          As for the first two rounds, they were close but Canelo controlled the center and seemed to land the better quality punches. Most people scored them for canelo - just because GGG was a little more competitive in those rounds than he was for the majority of the fight, doesn't mean he gets them by default.

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            #25
            Originally posted by 786

            If he's controlling the pace while throwing and landing more he should and that's what happened for most of the fight.

            Not comparing the fights but in terms of caution, GGG fought a very similar fight to Smith in that he didn't seem comfortable letting his hands go until the second half and seemed content just going the distance. Different fights, similar approaches.

            As for the first two rounds, they were close but Canelo controlled the center and seemed to land the better quality punches. Most people scored them for canelo - just because GGG was a little more competitive in those rounds than he was for the majority of the fight, doesn't mean he gets them by default.
            He's controlling the pace - relative to what you might expect in a normal GGG fight - it was still a lot of close rounds. You don't give rounds for dictating pace. You give rounds based on what happens in that round. You could be fighting at the other's guys pace for a round but still land the better or more shots and win the round.

            Yeah I disagree - I think a common theme in GGG fights is people seem to forget a lot of his shots (usually the jab) that lands in the round, and when he inevitably takes a shot or 3, they end up scoring a clear round for the opponent.

            GGG was landing pretty solidly in every round. Can you point out the clearest Canelo round in your opinion? I'll watch it again, but even most of the early 7 or so rounds were tactical rounds I felt, pretty clearly. Just a game of cat and mouse really.

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            • El Más Loco
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              #26
              GGG won 3 rounds....AT MOST.

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                #27
                Originally posted by satiev1
                I gave ggg rds 9-12 and the first. Canelo took the last 4 rds off and rd 1 ggg won with the jabs. Rd 6-7 was also very close. The dazn commentators were **** riding canelo hard.
                Boxing is not for you lol

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Boxing-1013

                  He's controlling the pace - relative to what you might expect in a normal GGG fight - it was still a lot of close rounds. You don't give rounds for dictating pace. You give rounds based on what happens in that round. You could be fighting at the other's guys pace for a round but still land the better or more shots and win the round.

                  Yeah I disagree - I think a common theme in GGG fights is people seem to forget a lot of his shots (usually the jab) that lands in the round, and when he inevitably takes a shot or 3, they end up scoring a clear round for the opponent.

                  GGG was landing pretty solidly in every round. Can you point out the clearest Canelo round in your opinion? I'll watch it again, but even most of the early 7 or so rounds were tactical rounds I felt, pretty clearly. Just a game of cat and mouse really.
                  I didn't just say "controlling pace" but controlling pace while throwing and landing more. I also mentioned that Canelo was landing the better quality punches, controlling the center and backing GGG up. You're taking things I'm saying out of their full context to make your points, it seems like you're looking for ways to make this fight close but it just wasn't. Controlling the pace was just one of the factors I mentioned for Canelo winning more rounds. Canelo's body punching was effective tonight too.

                  GGG seemed to neglect the jab after the first couple of rounds and didn't get it going again until the 9th which is where it was most effective and when he had the most success in the fight. 9 - 11 was GGG's moment in the fight, too little, too late. Canelo dominated from 3 - 8 but I had him also winning the first two. Just listen to Banks' instructions throughout the fight, his frustration was evident. I think it was after the 6th when he was telling GGG he really has to get going and needs to "believe in the gameplan."

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                    #29
                    The rounds Canelo won were clear. The rounds people gave GGG were close and could have went either way. They were 'comparative rounds' meaning he did so awful in the other rounds they scored those rounds for him out of pity. It was not close.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by 786

                      I didn't just say "controlling pace" but controlling pace while throwing and landing more. I also mentioned that Canelo was landing the better quality punches, controlling the center and backing GGG up. You're taking things I'm saying out of their full context to make your points, it seems like you're looking for ways to make this fight close but it just wasn't. Controlling the pace was just one of the factors I mentioned for Canelo winning more rounds. Canelo's body punching was effective tonight too.

                      GGG seemed to neglect the jab after the first couple of rounds and didn't get it going again until the 9th which is where it was most effective and when he had the most success in the fight. 9 - 11 was GGG's moment in the fight, too little, too late. Canelo dominated from 3 - 8 but I had him also winning the first two. Just listen to Banks' instructions throughout the fight, his frustration was evident. I think it was after the 6th when he was telling GGG he really has to get going and needs to "believe in the gameplan."
                      Not at all. I was giving my opinions on what happened in the rounds, just as you are doing. Canelo controlling the pace relative to the first 2 fights is a fact more or less, but him outlanding GGG or landing the best punches, is much less clear in a lot of rounds. Those are opinions for the most part.

                      The gameplan seemed to be to weather the early rounds and pour it on late and hope for a KO. I think that much was clear. I didn't see any domination man. What was the clearest round for Canelo that you had?

                      I don't remember every round but I saw a chess match fight for most of the early rounds. Even a glance at compubox, which I felt was way off for GGG in a few rounds, Canelo outlanded GGG by 13-9 in round 6. That was his biggest margin. Just an example.

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