Comments Thread For: Arum: I Look Forward To Matching Haney-Kambosos Winner With Lomachenko

[Hustle]

The whole situation made no sense, he'd literally just became champion palming him off with a mandatory right away makes little to no sense tbh... seems like a whole lot of behind the scenes tomfoolery to promote all sorts of confusion within the division.

Giving up the belt is what made no sense

[DClefthook]

The part you're ignoring is that it was supposed to be Haney who fought Campbell for the wbc belt in the first place.

Lomachenko wasn't at the wbc and the belt was vacant. The top two contenders were Campbell and Haney.

Bob pulled strings to get Loma to fight Campbell for the wbc.

That was supposed to be Haney's shot, not Loma's.

And then after they cheated Haney of his shot, they refused to defend against him and requested the franchise aka duck your mandatories belt.

Why wouldn't Haney fans or even neutral fans be pissed about that.

Especially when Haney was given the derogatory email champ belt after being cheated and ducked right afterwards?

"Do unto others as they do unto you". If I were Devin I would do the same to Loma as he did to me. Go beat the brakes off Kambozo then tell Arum to give you anyone but Loma for your 3rd and final fight. If claims that you have to fight Loma because he is the WBO mandatory, then drop the Wbo belt. Fight someone like Richard Commey. Then after you beat him go xross the street to Haymon and go for the biggest money fight you van Tank vs Devin on Showtime PPV. Ice Arum / Loma out of the process!

[Cypocryphy]

So why would loma have to give up the wbc belt in the first place?

He wouldnt have been stripped since unifications trump mandatories right?

It was a long-term plan. Arum planed doing this as soon as Canelo was made Franchise Champ. This was even before the Loma vs Campbell fight, which means it was before Haney was even an interim champ. It was when Haney was a prospect/contender.

Why? For the same reason the WBA has a super-belt champ. It's to enable the biggest fights without having to delay or screw things up with mandatories. Also, the Franchise belt would allow Loma to move up and down weight classes, make him able to immediately challenge the champion, which is what Canelo did. For Loma, that mean 130, fighting Berchelt at that time and then setting him up to fight either Stevenson at 130 or Valdez. That was the plan.

However, Devin had talked himself into a fight with Loma, who had contacted him and said that they'll talk after the Lopez fight. Devin showed the text messages in a Fighthype video. So even though he had the Franchise video, Loma was planning on fighting Devin, probably to put a stop to all the talk.

It's nonsense to think that this somehow prevented that fight from happening. Devin was never the mandatory challenger. He was a discretionary challenger, requiring a petition and vote by the WBC board members. Not ever was he a mandatory challenger because he was never ranked #1 with the WBC. That's a provable fact. I get so tired of hearing this BS.

[Bronx23]

It was a long-term plan. Arum planed doing this as soon as Canelo was made Franchise Champ. This was even before the Loma vs Campbell fight, which means it was before Haney was even an interim champ. It was when Haney was a prospect/contender.

Why? For the same reason the WBA has a super-belt champ. It's to enable the biggest fights without having to delay or screw things up with mandatories. Also, the Franchise belt would allow Loma to move up and down weight classes, make him able to immediately challenge the champion, which is what Canelo did. For Loma, that mean 130, fighting Berchelt at that time and then setting him up to fight either Stevenson at 130 or Valdez. That was the plan.

However, Devin had talked himself into a fight with Loma, who had contacted him and said that they'll talk after the Lopez fight. Devin showed the text messages in a Fighthype video. So even though he had the Franchise video, Loma was planning on fighting Devin, probably to put a stop to all the talk.

It's nonsense to think that this somehow prevented that fight from happening. Devin was never the mandatory challenger. He was a discretionary challenger, requiring a petition and vote by the WBC board members. Not ever was he a mandatory challenger because he was never ranked #1 with the WBC. That's a provable fact. I get so tired of hearing this BS.

None of this matters bro. They could fight tomorrow and people will still complain

[A_State501]

It was a long-term plan. Arum planed doing this as soon as Canelo was made Franchise Champ. This was even before the Loma vs Campbell fight, which means it was before Haney was even an interim champ. It was when Haney was a prospect/contender.

Why? For the same reason the WBA has a super-belt champ. It's to enable the biggest fights without having to delay or screw things up with mandatories. Also, the Franchise belt would allow Loma to move up and down weight classes, make him able to immediately challenge the champion, which is what Canelo did. For Loma, that mean 130, fighting Berchelt at that time and then setting him up to fight either Stevenson at 130 or Valdez. That was the plan.

However, Devin had talked himself into a fight with Loma, who had contacted him and said that they'll talk after the Lopez fight. Devin showed the text messages in a Fighthype video. So even though he had the Franchise video, Loma was planning on fighting Devin, probably to put a stop to all the talk.

It's nonsense to think that this somehow prevented that fight from happening. Devin was never the mandatory challenger. He was a discretionary challenger, requiring a petition and vote by the WBC board members. Not ever was he a mandatory challenger because he was never ranked #1 with the WBC. That's a provable fact. I get so tired of hearing this BS.

The franchise title doesn't make you a mandatory. It allows you to not fight your mandatory. It wasn't even a transferable title until special accommodations were made for the Teo fight.

You can check WBC site. I swear guy's here pull ish out the sky for their trash arguments.

[Fist_ti_cuffs]

Loma has accomplished so much more than Haney, has a better resume, beat more champions than Haney & has all of this with 10 less fights than Haney. Why shouldn't he deserve more regard than Haney ?

At 24 Loma was still fighting teenagers in the amateur's, unlike Haney who is the current undisputed unified champion at 135. Besides, didn't Loma lose to a 35 year old journeyman at the age of 26? Just saying...

[sicko]

Haney really need to stand on his punches, gave Kambosos too much respect like he has Tank Davis Power or something.

The Uppercut was open for Haney All Night and even he admitted that after the fight but he just wouldn't shoot it for whatever reason. He can beat this man Blind Folded, but I would like to see him at least try to get him out

[Cypocryphy]

The franchise title doesn't make you a mandatory. It allows you to not fight your mandatory. It wasn't even a transferable title until special accommodations were made for the Teo fight.

You can check WBC site. I swear guy's here pull ish out the sky for their trash arguments.

What are you even talking about? Where did I say that the franchise makes you a mandatory?!! Saaaaaaay What?!!! LMAO! I don't know what the hell you're talking about and neither do you.

[The Big Dunn]

Ummm you do know Loma took LESS to make the Teo fight happen so that makes no sense. Bottom line is that Loma Teo was easier to make than Loma Haney and it was for all the marbles. If you wanna blame anyone, blame the greedy WBC who made up the stupid franchise designation in the first place. They went on to collect two sanctioning fees for the same belt & then told Teo he was the real WBC champ after giving one to Haney.

Um you do know that occurred after Arum floated a replacement for Teo and espn made it clear he wouldn’t get the same amount if it wasn’t Teo, so then he took leas so Teo could get more. Please make sure we discuss this in the proper context.

Yes, an in house fight was easier to make. The WBC does get some blame but when Loma lies about knowing and then gets exposed by Fat Dan , he doesn’t get a pass.

The WBC greed is one thing. Loma asking for that designation to avoid the mando is another.

[Hustle]

It was a long-term plan. Arum planed doing this as soon as Canelo was made Franchise Champ. This was even before the Loma vs Campbell fight, which means it was before Haney was even an interim champ. It was when Haney was a prospect/contender.

Why? For the same reason the WBA has a super-belt champ. It's to enable the biggest fights without having to delay or screw things up with mandatories. Also, the Franchise belt would allow Loma to move up and down weight classes, make him able to immediately challenge the champion, which is what Canelo did. For Loma, that mean 130, fighting Berchelt at that time and then setting him up to fight either Stevenson at 130 or Valdez. That was the plan.

However, Devin had talked himself into a fight with Loma, who had contacted him and said that they'll talk after the Lopez fight. Devin showed the text messages in a Fighthype video. So even though he had the Franchise video, Loma was planning on fighting Devin, probably to put a stop to all the talk.

It's nonsense to think that this somehow prevented that fight from happening. Devin was never the mandatory challenger. He was a discretionary challenger, requiring a petition and vote by the WBC board members. Not ever was he a mandatory challenger because he was never ranked #1 with the WBC. That's a provable fact. I get so tired of hearing this BS.

The wba had a super champ in every divison. The wbc doesn't have a franchise champ in every divison. It was created for 2 ducks. It's a provable fact that Loma asked to be Franchise.

Loma vacated. Point blank period.

Who vacates when trying to be undisputed? Only a duck