What’s your current HW top 10?

[famicommander]

Joyce is a good HW, he’s a problem for anyone at HW not named Fury. He’s levels above Charles Martin.

Dubois ices Martin inside 6. If it ever happens we’ll have a bet.

We can agree to disagree man, it’s all subjective anyway.

Joyce is good based on what? Beating the respective ghosts of Jennings, Stiverne, or Hammer? Takam, who ****** even when he was young?

The whole heavyweight division is just bums fighting bums.

Wilder would ice Joyce inside 3 rounds. No question in my mind that stiff robot gets Breazeale'd.

[M312]

Joint number 1) Fury and Usyk
Joint number 2) AJ and Wilder
Joint number 3) Everyone else decent

Now let's settle the order in the ring.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Joyce is good based on what? Beating the respective ghosts of Jennings, Stiverne, or Hammer? Takam, who ****** even when he was young?

The whole heavyweight division is just bums fighting bums.

Wilder would ice Joyce inside 3 rounds. No question in my mind that stiff robot gets Breazeale'd.

Based on his attributes, you can’t just base everything off resume, especially in such a shallow division.

Joyce’s size, strength, durability and stamina will give a lot of HW’s problems.

[famicommander]

Based on his attributes, you can’t just base everything off resume, especially in such a shallow division.

Joyce’s size, strength, durability and stamina will give a lot of HW’s problems.

We don't know if he's durable because he hasn't fought anybody with a pulse. Shrugging off Ustinov punches doesn't prove a damn thing.

We do know he's slower than molasses and stiff as a board and already turns 37 next month, though.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

We don't know if he's durable because he hasn't fought anybody with a pulse. Shrugging off Ustinov punches doesn't prove a damn thing.

We do know he's slower than molasses and stiff as a board and already turns 37 next month, though.

The guy has a phenomenal chin that’s non debatable. He’s taken clean shots that would have KO’d other HW’s.

Again man, far too focused on resume. Prior to Klitschko who had Fury beat to suggest he was a top HW? Sometimes you have to analyse attributes rather than opposition.

[famicommander]

The guy has a phenomenal chin that’s non debatable. He’s taken clean shots that would have KO’d other HW’s.

Again man, far too focused on resume. Prior to Klitschko who had Fury beat to suggest he was a top HW? Sometimes you have to analyse attributes rather than opposition.

The attributes I see are his age, his complete lack of head movement, and his alarmingly horrible speed.

He's going to be target practice for the first good heavyweight he fights.

And no, that's not Parker. Parker struggled mightily with guys like Leapai and Junior Frieaking Fa.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

The attributes I see are his age, his complete lack of head movement, and his alarmingly horrible speed.

He's going to be target practice for the first good heavyweight he fights.

And no, that's not Parker. Parker struggled mightily with guys like Leapai and Junior Frieaking Fa.

Bro, you’ve still got Ortiz in your top 10 and he’s 43. Is age really that big of an issue?

Who exactly do you want Joyce to fight? It’s not like he hasn’t been matched aggressively. Parker is a legit top 10 HW and is a good win. Stop being so f***ing negative.

[famicommander]

Bro, you’ve still got Ortiz in your top 10 and he’s 43. Is age really that big of an issue?

Who exactly do you want Joyce to fight? It’s not like he hasn’t been matched aggressively. Parker is a legit top 10 HW and is a good win. Stop being so f***ing negative.

Parker flat out sucks, man. He didn't even beat Ruiz for that belt and he didn't even try against Joshua in their unification. Since then he's looked horrible against Whyte, Chisora, Leapai, and Fa.

It's a garbage division and the fact that people like Parker or Whyte even sniffed the top level of it is proof of that. Horrible fighters.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Parker flat out sucks, man. He didn't even beat Ruiz for that belt and he didn't even try against Joshua in their unification. Since then he's looked horrible against Whyte, Chisora, Leapai, and Fa.

It's a garbage division and the fact that people like Parker or Whyte even sniffed the top level of it is proof of that. Horrible fighters.

It’s a poor division in terms of depth but guys like Joyce, Parker etc are decent fighters. Nothing special but good HW’s by modern standards. They’re not Lucas Browne.

[famicommander]

It’s a poor division in terms of depth but guys like Joyce, Parker etc are decent fighters. Nothing special but good HW’s by modern standards. They’re not Lucas Browne.

I have seen every fight Parker has had since the Takam fight.

He has no stamina, no heart, no punching power, no desire to win. Just a solid chin.

Did you see the Leapai or Fa fights? Horrible fighters and Parker fought so, so poorly against them. And failing to put Chisora away in that last fight? Come on man. Chisora was dead on his feet for 8 rounds and Parker just stood there.