What’s your current HW top 10?

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Dubois has a good straight right hand and that’s all you need to beat Charles Martin.

Dubois will go on to have a decent career IMO.

Still think DuBois would ice Martin inside 6 and go onto have a good career? He may have beaten Lerena but he got dropped 3 times against a fringe contender cruiserweight.

I told you he ****** and I told you Joyce beating him (and Parker, who also ******) meant nothing.

(I still think you're one of the smartest and best posters here, I just felt really strongly that DuBois was trash all along)

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I might would add “the The Real Big Baby to the list, and I’m not talking about the PED king either!

I agree... Anderson belongs on there. He hasn't proven it yet, but he will soon.

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Still think DuBois would ice Martin inside 6 and go onto have a good career? He may have beaten Lerena but he got dropped 3 times against a fringe contender cruiserweight.

I told you he ****** and I told you Joyce beating him (and Parker, who also ******) meant nothing.

(I still think you're one of the smartest and best posters here, I just felt really strongly that DuBois was trash all along)

Yeah I still think he’d destroy Martin. Martin is terrible man.

Dubois is nowhere near ready for the top guys though.

Joyce is a top 5 HW, the way he destroyed Parker was impressive.

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Yeah I still think he’d destroy Martin. Martin is terrible man.

Dubois is nowhere near ready for the top guys though.

Joyce is a top 5 HW, the way he destroyed Parker was impressive.

Martin would ice Lerena in one round like Lerena nearly did to DuBois. Martin is indeed terrible, but he hits hard. Lerena is a career cruiserweight with 14 KOs in 30 fights and zero quality wins on his record and he had DuBois on the canvas three times. DuBois looked worse today than Martin has in any fight, even when he laid down and quit against Joshua.

Joe Parker is trash. It's impossible to be impressive against him because he's horrible. Anyone who watched him against Chisora twice, Junior Fa, or Alex Leapai cannot honestly claim he's still a good fighter. Even at his peak he went life and death with trash ass Dillian Whyte (got robbed on headbutt knockdown, but Whyte sucks anyway), didn't even try against Joshua, and got handed a hometown decision against Andy Ruiz.

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Martin would ice Lerena in one round like Lerena nearly did to DuBois. Martin is indeed terrible, but he hits hard. Lerena is a career cruiserweight with 14 KOs in 30 fights and zero quality wins on his record and he had DuBois on the canvas three times. DuBois looked worse today than Martin has in any fight, even when he laid down and quit against Joshua.

Joe Parker is trash. It's impossible to be impressive against him because he's horrible. Anyone who watched him against Chisora twice, Junior Fa, or Alex Leapai cannot honestly claim he's still a good fighter. Even at his peak he went life and death with trash ass Dillian Whyte (got robbed on headbutt knockdown, but Whyte sucks anyway), didn't even try against Joshua, and got handed a hometown decision against Andy Ruiz.

Who has Martin ever iced inside a round? Didn’t he go like 5 rounds with a shot Gerald Washington?

I think Lerena vs Martin would be quite competitive tbh. Lerena is a live dog in that fight. Not that’s it’s a fight I have any interest in watching.

Parker went 12 with AJ and never looked in trouble. Destroying him like Joyce did is definitely a statement. I don’t think many current HW’s stop Parker.

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Who has Martin ever iced inside a round? Didn’t he go like 5 rounds with a shot Gerald Washington?

I think Lerena vs Martin would be quite competitive tbh. Lerena is a live dog in that fight. Not that’s it’s a fight I have any interest in watching.

Parker went 12 with AJ and never looked in trouble. Destroying him like Joyce did is definitely a statement. I don’t think many current HW’s stop Parker.

Parker turtled the entire AJ fight and indeed looked terrible. Watch it again if you don't believe me, he didn't engage at all. He was fighting not to get knocked out from the opening bell and at no point opened up. Not to mention, that fight was nearly five years ago at this point, seven fights and five horrible performances in the past for Parker.

Parker ****** in his prime and is now a shot fighter. I cannot stress enough how horrible Junior Fa is and that fight arguably could've gone either way. Freaking Lucas Browne iced him right after losing to a rugby player by KO.

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Parker turtled the entire AJ fight and indeed looked terrible. Watch it again if you don't believe me, he didn't engage at all. He was fighting not to get knocked out from the opening bell and at no point opened up. Not to mention, that fight was nearly five years ago at this point, seven fights and five horrible performances in the past for Parker.

Parker ****** in his prime and is now a shot fighter. I cannot stress enough how horrible Junior Fa is and that fight arguably could've gone either way. Freaking Lucas Browne iced him right after losing to a rugby player by KO.

What other current HW’s stop Parker?

Besides Wilder, Joyce and maybe Fury I’m not sure many others do.

The Parker sub cemented Joyce as a top 5 HW IMO.

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What other current HW’s stop Parker?

Besides Wilder, Joyce and maybe Fury I’m not sure many others do.

The Parker sub cemented Joyce as a top 5 HW IMO.

I think anybody with a pulse stops this version of Parker. I think he's well and truly done.

Again, watch the Chisora, Leapai, and Fa fights and tell me that guy has ANY heart, stamina, or desire to win. Those three guys straight up suck and Parker struggled mightily in all four of those fights.

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I think anybody with a pulse stops this version of Parker. I think he's well and truly done.

Again, watch the Chisora, Leapai, and Fa fights and tell me that guy has ANY heart, stamina, or desire to win. Those three guys straight up suck and Parker struggled mightily in all four of those fights.

Parker took an absolute beating vs Joyce. He could have easily quit after 5 or 6 rounds. He definitely showed heart and desire in that fight.

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Parker took an absolute beating vs Joyce. He could have easily quit after 5 or 6 rounds. He definitely showed heart and desire in that fight.

Parker lasted one round longer than DuBois, who was completely exposed by a cruiserweight fringe contender today.

The entire heavyweight division is so trash that I don't think anybody can prove a damn thing unless they have Fury, Usyk, Wilder, or Joshua across from them. Everybody else is just a guy. Ruiz needed a gift to beat a 43 year old on Bambi legs last time out.