What’s your current HW top 10?

[JakeTheBoxer]

elite: Fury, Usyk
semi elite: Joshua, Wilder
world class: Joyce, Whyte, Parker, Sanchez, Ruiz, Ortiz, Chisora
semi world class: Dubois, Helenius, Bakole, Hrgovic, Zhang, Pulev, Hunter

all others

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I'm not a list guy but most of them look pretty sound apart from Dubois and Ortiz IMO

Not sure who I'd replace in the 10th spot for Dubois though... Maybe Bakole, as crazy as that sounds.

They have the same record but Bakole's resume seems better with Kuzmin, Yoka and one of the few to ever stop Kevin Johnson

I was debating between Dubois and Bakole myself interestingly enough. Hunter was the other guy I considered.

[famicommander]

You think Dubois couldn’t beat Charles Martin? C’mon man. Dubois is pretty basic but he definitely deals with the man who walks the earth like a gawd.

Martin was in my estimation the worst heavyweight titlist in history and I'm embarrassed he's from my country.

And even with that thought in mind, I'd easily pick him over DuBois. His performance against Joyce was absolutely horrible and he's never fought anybody else even close to as good as Gerald Washington, who also sucks.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Martin was in my estimation the worst heavyweight titlist in history and I'm embarrassed he's from my country.

And even with that thought in mind, I'd easily pick him over DuBois. His performance against Joyce was absolutely horrible and he's never fought anybody else even close to as good as Gerald Washington, who also sucks.

I’d confidently pick Dubois to beat Martin.

[famicommander]

I’d confidently pick Dubois to beat Martin.

Based on what?

We know DuBois can't avoid the slowest jab in the world or make any adjustments at all.

Martin sucks but he's smart enough to fire jabs at a guy that refuses to get the hell out of the way.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Based on what?

We know DuBois can't avoid the slowest jab in the world or make any adjustments at all.

Martin sucks but he's smart enough to fire jabs at a guy that refuses to get the hell out of the way.

Dubois has a good straight right hand and that’s all you need to beat Charles Martin.

Dubois will go on to have a decent career IMO.

[famicommander]

Dubois has a good straight right hand and that’s all you need to beat Charles Martin.

Dubois will go on to have a decent career IMO.

No way in hell. He got beat down in humiliating fashion getting hit with the same slow motion punch over and over and over and over again.

Good fighters don't continuously get hit with the same shot and make no adjustments.

Joyce isn't very good but he's the only guy with a pulse DuBois has ever seen and the fight wasn't competitive at all.

[YoungManRumble]

I was debating between Dubois and Bakole myself interestingly enough. Hunter was the other guy I considered.

Yeah, that's fair. These are the guys on the edge of the top 10 for sure. I don't like Hunter personally but he did beat Bakole. I just feel like his stock drops a bit with 2 draws he arguably should have L's for but we're going off official standings of course.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Yeah, that's fair. These are the guys on the edge of the top 10 for sure. I don't like Hunter personally but he did beat Bakole. I just feel like his stock drops a bit with 2 draws he arguably should have L's for but we're going off official standings of course.

After the top 5 or 6 a lot of them are interchangeable.

I essentially left Hunter out for the reasons you mentioned.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

No way in hell. He got beat down in humiliating fashion getting hit with the same slow motion punch over and over and over and over again.

Good fighters don't continuously get hit with the same shot and make no adjustments.

Joyce isn't very good but he's the only guy with a pulse DuBois has ever seen and the fight wasn't competitive at all.

Joyce is a good HW, he’s a problem for anyone at HW not named Fury. He’s levels above Charles Martin.

Dubois ices Martin inside 6. If it ever happens we’ll have a bet.

We can agree to disagree man, it’s all subjective anyway.