Who is more finished, Joshua or Wilder?

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  • MONGOOSE66
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    #11
    Originally posted by Silence
    Since 2019 AJ lost to Ruiz by KO and 2x Usyk by dec. He lost 3 fights out of his last 5 fights.

    Since 2018 Wilder got a gift draw against Fury and lost to him 2x by KO.

    I say AJ because his mentality is as glass as his chin. Wilder took more punishment tho.
    Both men are very capable of making MILLIONS fighting, STILL. How bout you?

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    • Dakuwaqa
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      #12
      AJ was ‘whooped’

      It was a fairly competitive fight

      Wilder got the dog **** beaten out of him and is 4/5 years older

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      • mromano
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        #13
        Hope they fight each other and the loser retires.

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        • joseph5620
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          #14
          Neither. Only casual fans think boxers are "finished " after losing.

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          • baroidi
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            #15
            I think the losses affects Joshua a lot more, Wilder says some ****** stuff, but his myriad of excuses shows he still has confidence in himself.

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            • QueensburyRules
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              #16
              - - I'd say U never ever got started enough to be finished that makes U eminently qualified to spam this forum.

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              • MaksBox
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                #17
                Despite the loss, this has been the best version of Joshua yet. He actually boxed, changed levels, etc. One or two more and AJ will be at the top again.

                Wilder on the other hand, you cannot teach him anything and Wilder was merely proven for what everyone knew, he is a guy who can punch but zero skills. Now that Wilder's chin is cracked.... there is no coming back from that.

                AJ has not taken much physical abuse. He was outclassed and outboxed, yes.

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                • F l i c k e r
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                  #18
                  Neither. They both can still box but I think the AJ wave is officially dead. He's no longer this bogeyman they tried to market him to be. Wilder on the other hand lost to the best HW of the last 10 or so years. There's no shame in that.

                  AJ can't be marketed the way he used to be but he can certainly still box if he wants to.

                  Wilder on the other hand still has the draw, he just has to decide he wants to still box, which he very well can still do. As limited of a boxer that he is, I do not believe any of AJ, Ruiz, Usyk whatever can do to Fury what Wilder did to Fury. Nor endure from Fury what Wilder endured from Fury.

                  He took Ls but he's only finished if he decides to not box anymore.

                  Same for AJ.

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                  • F l i c k e r
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Dakuwaqa
                    AJ was ‘whooped’

                    It was a fairly competitive fight

                    Wilder got the dog **** beaten out of him and is 4/5 years older
                    He went to war with a guy AJ couldn't go to war with. He'd be done in the first round taking the bombs Wilder did, all while not being able to throw bombs at Fury back. His chin and composition is weaker.

                    Same for Usyk.

                    He'll box better than Wilder, that's for sure but there's no way he's not getting wrecked by Fury either. The size and power is just too great imo. Fury is that dude.

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                    • 4truth
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                      #20
                      There's nothing physical wrong with them but they may be mentally in a bad place. Wilder need to look good winning against the Nordic Nightmare and Joshua needs a good win as well. Then we'll see.

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