Who is more finished, Joshua or Wilder?

[Dakuwaqa]

He went to war with a guy AJ couldn't go to war with. He'd be done in the first round taking the bombs Wilder did, all while not being able to throw bombs at Fury back. His chin and composition is weaker.

Same for Usyk.

He'll box better than Wilder, that's for sure but there's no way he's not getting wrecked by Fury either. The size and power is just too great imo. Fury is that dude.

That’s all irrelevant homeslice

We’re talking about ‘who is more finished’

Wilder is 5 years older and took 3 whoopings

[lopetego]

Physically, it's probably Wilder

Mentally? Joshua definetly

[F l i c k e r]

That’s all irrelevant homeslice

We’re talking about ‘who is more finished’

Wilder is 5 years older and took 3 whoopings

But is he more finished though?

Wilder could really come back, wipe the division, and ride of into the sunset.

Ruiz and the lot aren't posing a threat and even with superior skill, I'm not sure Usyk handles Wilder like he did AJ. So, it's still open for Wilder.

Taking 3 ass whoopings to Fury isn't too bad, considering Wilder could realistically wipe the landscape clear outside of Fury.

[Dakuwaqa]

But is he more finished though?

Wilder could really come back, wipe the division, and ride of into the sunset.

Ruiz and the lot aren't posing a threat and even with superior skill, I'm not sure Usyk handles Wilder like he did AJ. So, it's still open for Wilder.

Taking 3 ass whoopings to Fury isn't too bad, considering Wilder could realistically wipe the landscape clear outside of Fury.

But can be still do that?

‘He’s not getting any younger’ in fact he’ll so been turning 37

And how will 2 KO defeats in a row affect him ‘both physically and mentally’ going forward ?

[oscar9992]

Wilder took much more damage against Fury than Joshua did against Usyk. But Joshua is mentally finished. He looks defeated & lost.

Wilder still KO's most of the heavyweights easily.

[F l i c k e r]

But can be still do that?

‘He’s not getting any younger’ in fact he’ll so been turning 37

And how will 2 KO defeats in a row affect him ‘both physically and mentally’ going forward ?

Those are definitely valid points.

I could maybe be putting too much belief into Wilder but the current HWs just don't impress me.

Seeing Wilder vs Fury, I have more belief in Wilder. The size and power combination, I just don't think any of the other HWs can do to him what Fury did but that's me going on what Wilder used to be. Not what Wilder is after the Fury trilogy.

[SUBZER0ED]

Joshua has suffered losses in fights that he could have won, and he lost his unified titles doing so. That's got to mess with his head. Meanwhile, Wilder suffered brutal beatings while he believed he was invincible, so he's injured both mentally and physically. Therefore, I think he's the worse for wear. It will be interesting to see how these men handle their respective major setbacks.

[Dakuwaqa]

Those are definitely valid points.

I could maybe be putting too much belief into Wilder but the current HWs just don't impress me.

Seeing Wilder vs Fury, I have more belief in Wilder. The size and power combination, I just don't think any of the other HWs can do to him what Fury did but that's me going on what Wilder used to be. Not what Wilder is after the Fury trilogy.

Wilder has freakish power. I’d say his straight right is the most powerful punch in boxing history

It’s also quick and snappy. So is his jab.

Prime Wilder beats everyone other than Fury I agree

[real raw]

Have you seen Wilder at the latest media gatherings? The dude is chill af. Wilder may say some dumb things here and there but I don't recall him throwing belts out of a ring, crying at the post press conference and flipping out on media as he walked away.

Let's be honest, Wilder lost only to 1 man and he's dropped that man 4 times. His ego is probably not as hurt as AJ who got KO'd by a midget fat f**k and then outboxed to death followed by another boxing clinic. I give him credit for putting up a better fight this time but he still looked like a mechanical ogre in comparison to Usyk's fluid and smooth boxing movement. I think that messed with his head more that he just cannot compete at the highest level of boxing.

Wilder has the eraser. He knows he can end a fight that he's being outboxed 10rds before it lands. He's confident in that and will always go into a fight knowing he can do that. Wilder is not done, he's about to go on a second reign hopefully. I'm all for it.

Excellent summary

[M312]

Wilder was just brutally knocked out in his last two fights and hasn't won a round of boxing since 2016 outside a knockdown.

He might lose to anyone in the top 20.

AJ is probably still unlikely to lose to anyone not named Fury or Usyk imo.