Usyk is the true lineal, Fury is fraud

[PrimadonnaKool]

Usyk is truly "the man" at heavyweight and proved it the hard way.

Who has fury beaten? Usyk's resume is far better and he's the far better boxer. Fury will never face Usyk.

[hugh grant]

Well of course fury retired and he was happy. But now people asking him to unretired he will comeback due to public demand. Nobody is the man yet. Front runners are fury and usyk for now

[Toffee]

I still believe Usyk is lineal.

Fury retired, the consensus 1-2 fought. Joshua became lineal by beating Klitschko.

Just because TBRB made the decision to unrank Klitschko (from being ranked 1) for being inactive doesn't change any of that. He was only inactive because of Fury's issues. They immediately ranked Joshua and Klitschko as the top two again after the fight.

It's a much better argument than claiming that Klitschko v Joshua doesn't count because Wlad was inactive... then somehow ranking Fury top two before the second Wilder fight when his best win in years was Wallin.

[PrimadonnaKool]

I still believe Usyk is lineal.

Fury retired, the consensus 1-2 fought. Joshua became lineal by beating Klitschko.

Just because TBRB made the decision to unrank Klitschko (from being ranked 1) for being inactive doesn't change any of that. He was only inactive because of Fury's issues. They immediately ranked Joshua and Klitschko as the top two again after the fight.

It's a much better argument than claiming that Klitschko v Joshua doesn't count because Wlad was inactive... then somehow ranking Fury top two before the second Wilder fight when his best win in years was Wallin.

Yes it's very true one could argue fury hasn't been lineal since 2015 and he most certainly isn't now, everyone knows Usyk is the true champion.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

The sheer delusion in this thread.

Usyk’s one of my favourite active fighters and despite also being a longtime Fury fan, I’d actually root for him to beat Fury if they fought for undisputed.

That aside, there’s absolutely no way you can deny Fury is the current lineal king. Either you recognise it as one singular reign going back to Fury dethroning Klitschko. Or you recognise it as his second reign beginning after he beat Wilder as both were ranked #1 and #2 by essentially every legitimate publication (Ring, TBRB, ESPN, Boxrec etc)

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Usyk is truly "the man" at heavyweight and proved it the hard way.

Who has fury beaten? Usyk's resume is far better and he's the far better boxer. Fury will never face Usyk.

He's beaten two long-reigning HW champions. Usyk has done what? Outpointed a bodybuilder who was already KTFO by a human blob and had never beaten a real champion himself.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I still believe Usyk is lineal.

Fury retired, the consensus 1-2 fought. Joshua became lineal by beating Klitschko.

Just because TBRB made the decision to unrank Klitschko (from being ranked 1) for being inactive doesn't change any of that. He was only inactive because of Fury's issues. They immediately ranked Joshua and Klitschko as the top two again after the fight.

It's a much better argument than claiming that Klitschko v Joshua doesn't count because Wlad was inactive... then somehow ranking Fury top two before the second Wilder fight when his best win in years was Wallin.

The consensus 1 & 2 via what source exactly?

Ring still had Fury ranked #1 so they didn’t have them 1 and 2.

TBRB recognised Klitschko as an inactive fighter so they didn’t have them 1 & 2.

I’m pretty sure Boxrec also remove fighters from their rankings after 12 months of inactivity so they also likely didn’t have them 1 & 2.

It’s utter madness to consider Usyk lineal, unless you’re simply just doing it to be anti-Fury.

[Silence]

TS' every thread is more and more conflicting.

[IronDanHamza]

I still believe Usyk is lineal.

Fury retired, the consensus 1-2 fought. Joshua became lineal by beating Klitschko.

Just because TBRB made the decision to unrank Klitschko (from being ranked 1) for being inactive doesn't change any of that. He was only inactive because of Fury's issues. They immediately ranked Joshua and Klitschko as the top two again after the fight.

It's a much better argument than claiming that Klitschko v Joshua doesn't count because Wlad was inactive... then somehow ranking Fury top two before the second Wilder fight when his best win in years was Wallin.

Except Joshua and Klitschko weren't the consensus #1 and #2 then.

[M312]

There is no lineal champion.

Wladimir was not the lineal champion when Fury beat him.

Fury has done an excellent job marketing himself as the lineal champion though.

The only way we get a 'new' one now is an Undisputed champion.

If we're talking number 1, I think it's fair to say it's Fury in most people's books, but not unfair to disagree and think it's Usyk.