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Wilder sent an E Mail to Eddie on his own private account that wasn't a contract. Eddie exposed this on Twitter. When Eddie asked Espinoza to reveal this supposed contract, he refused to reveal anything. Show me where Espinoza showed a contract?

Wilder sent an email to Joshua on his own private account and attached to the email was a four page deal memo outlining all of the major deal points. Hearn admitted in interviews the offer was real, but that Joshua's team was debating whether they were willing to fight Wilder in the US. Ultimately Joshua's team decided against accepting the offer and when the backlash began, Hearn started making up stories about how the offer wasn't real so he could save face.

This is the problem with UK fanboys such as yourself. If you just stuck to the truth, you'd have a reasonable position. If you were honest and said, "Joshua was the bigger draw, he shouldn't accept the fight in the US," -- fine. That's a valid opinion. Instead, you fall for all of Hearn's lies and end up looking like a fool.

Not sure what you're lying and saying Espinoza refused to reveal anything. That's a blatant lie.

https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/status/1100122642902904832

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Wilder sent an email to Joshua on his own private account and attached to the email was a four page deal memo outlining all of the major deal points. Hearn admitted in interviews the offer was real, but that Joshua's team was debating whether they were willing to fight Wilder in the US. Ultimately Joshua's team decided against accepting the offer and when the backlash began, Hearn started making up stories about how the offer wasn't real so he could save face.

This is the problem with UK fanboys such as yourself. If you just stuck to the truth, you'd have a reasonable position. If you were honest and said, "Joshua was the bigger draw, he shouldn't accept the fight in the US," -- fine. That's a valid opinion. Instead, you fall for all of Hearn's lies and end up looking like a fool.

Not sure what you're lying and saying Espinoza refused to reveal anything. That's a blatant lie.

https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...22642902904832

Showtime had a moron put the offer to Matchroom over his own personal account? Haha. Does that not seem incredibly strange to you? Same thing with cancelling meetings.

This was before Hearn found out that BT was putting the money up. Conformed by the head of BT Sports and Frank Warren.

AJ knew dodgy shlt was going down so didn't have any trust in them. Just like they did to Fury in the first fight, AJ wasn't leaving with a win no matter what happened. Too much emotion had gone into it for this to be played straight.

That wasn't a contract that Espinoza put up. Eddie asked him to do so and let us all see the conditions for this supposed contract. Espinoza refused. His excuse was he didn't want to break any "Confidentiality agreement" even though the one he's doing the deal with is asking him to. Haha.

You're saying UK fans are the ones who don't stick to the truth? That is as sickening as all the lies over this ordeal clearly is. You lot a pathological liars in a twisted way. Slander and propaganda is all you do. This accusation sums up you extremists to a tee. You project and run a narrative and hope your lies are the information people see most of. Just because you have no shame it doesn't make any of this true. Wilder and his fans have been the most extreme boxing has ever seen. And there's been some deranged cowards from North America over the years. You probably think all the madness over Fury "Cheating" was real too. But that's how far extremists are willing to go.

Espinoza said he sent a contract that was 4 pages long. Eddie called him a liar and said that wasn't true. It was a few paragraphs long and that's it. Eddie asked for this "4 pages" but it never came. Don't worry though, most didn't believe any of it. Your lies are too consistent for that to be the case.

I bet you even believe AJ ducked with the 120 Mill offer from DAZN even though Wilder admitted ducking more money for the fight. But Wilder and co still pushed that madness like before.

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Showtime had a moron put the offer to Matchroom over his own personal account? Haha. Does that not seem incredibly strange to you? Same thing with cancelling meetings.

Wilder personally emailed the offer to Joshua for two reasons. #1 - To make sure Joshua personally saw the offer. #2 - To make sure Joshua knew Wilder was personally aware of the offer and was fully on board. As for any meetings, Haymon and Finkel asked Hearn to confirm he found the spirit of the agreement acceptable and that the meeting would be to hammer out the minor details. If Hearn was rejecting the $50 million, Haymon and Finkel weren't interested in meeting for the hell of it. Hearn refused to confirm that $50 million was acceptable, which is why the meeting didn't happen.

This was before Hearn found out that BT was putting the money up. Conformed by the head of BT Sports and Frank Warren.

BT wasn't putting up the $50 million, Showtime was. The head of BT Sports never said they were putting up the $50 million. The offer clearly stated Sky got UK rights. You're lying.

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Wilder personally emailed the offer to Joshua for two reasons. #1 - To make sure Joshua personally saw the offer. #2 - To make sure Joshua knew Wilder was personally aware of the offer and was fully on board. As for any meetings, Haymon and Finkel asked Hearn to confirm he found the spirit of the agreement acceptable and that the meeting would be to hammer out the minor details. If Hearn was rejecting the $50 million, Haymon and Finkel weren't interested in meeting for the hell of it. Hearn refused to confirm that $50 million was acceptable, which is why the meeting didn't happen.




BT wasn't putting up the $50 million, Showtime was. The head of BT Sports never said they were putting up the $50 million. The offer clearly stated Sky got UK rights. You're lying.

Joshua didn't get it sent to his E Mail account though, so that actually makes no sense. AJ was going to see it regardless.

Showtime always has Wilder put "Offers" to his opponents to let Wilder know he's fully on board? What??? Make this make sense.

Espinoza was asked to put the supposed contract up online. He didn't. What he showed doesn't even come close to being a contract. And don't forget that they refused a rematch clause for AJ too. All designed to have him not go for the "Deal".

Simple question: Is Wilder a pathological liar who contradicts himself repeatedly?

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Joshua didn't get it sent to his E Mail account though, so that actually makes no sense. AJ was going to see it regardless.

You're wrong. Joshua was copied on the email.

Showtime always has Wilder put "Offers" to his opponents to let Wilder know he's fully on board? What??? Make this make sense.

In order to guarantee Joshua $50 million, Wilder had to take a big risk and fight for a much lower guarantee. Had Finkel simply emailed Joshua, Joshua may have questioned whether Wilder was on board with fighting for such a small guarantee so that the promotion could guarantee $50 million for Joshua.

Espinoza was asked to put the supposed contract up online. He didn't.

He posted the relevant section pertaining to UK rights. He obviously wasn't going to post the entire contract.

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You're wrong. Joshua was copied on the email.




In order to guarantee Joshua $50 million, Wilder had to take a big risk and fight for a much lower guarantee. Had Finkel simply emailed Joshua, Joshua may have questioned whether Wilder was on board with fighting for such a small guarantee so that the promotion could guarantee $50 million for Joshua.




He posted the relevant section pertaining to UK rights. He obviously wasn't going to post the entire contract.

Joshua may have questioned whether Wilder was on board if Wilder himself didn't send the offer on his own personal E Mail account? Haha, what???? What, AJ doesn't think a fight is happening unless his opponent does all the business side and not his team like they're supposed to? You just make it up as you go along.

There wasn't a contract, that's why he couldn't send it. What was stopping him?

I've asked you if Wilder is a pathological liar who contradicts himself repeatedly?

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Joshua may have questioned whether Wilder was on board if Wilder himself didn't send the offer on his own personal E Mail account? Haha, what???? What, AJ doesn't think a fight is happening unless his opponent does all the business side and not his team like they're supposed to? You just make it up as you go along.

There wasn't a contract, that's why he couldn't send it. What was stopping him?

I've asked you if Wilder is a pathological liar who contradicts himself repeatedly?

You're lying. Espinoza posted a screen shot from the contract. Once Hearn's bluff was called, he never denied the screen shot was authentic.

I don't know if Wilder is a liar or not, but I know Showtime is owned by a publicly traded company and they wouldn't publicly say the $50 million was real unless it was.

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You're lying. Espinoza posted a screen shot from the contract. Once Hearn's bluff was called, he never denied the screen shot was authentic.

I don't know if Wilder is a liar or not, but I know Showtime is owned by a publicly traded company and they wouldn't publicly say the $50 million was real unless it was.

That wasn't a contract. Eddie wanted him to show it but he wouldn't. If there was, what was stopping him? Stop deflecting.

You don't know if Wilder is a pathological liar and contradicts himself all the time or not? Haha. You're a liar. You know full well he is.

A publicly traded company would cancel meetings, give a 24 hour time limit to accept the fight without going over it all, and have an idiot put the "Offer" out over his personal account and not do so in a professional manner like they're supposed to? Yeah, companies in the US never tell lies or anything because they're a "Publicly trading company" Haha. You get better every time out. Funny i haven't seen Showtime either have their fighters put out a contract before to "Make sure their opponent knows they're on board" Haha.

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That wasn't a contract. Eddie wanted him to show it but he wouldn't. If there was, what was stopping him?

It was a screen shot from the contract. It proved Eddie was lying. Eddie didn't even deny that the screen shot was authentic. To fool fanboys like you, Eddie demanded that Espinoza post the entire contract, knowing it would be unprofessional for Espinoza to post an entire contract. In your mind, Espinoza not posting the entire contract proved . . . you're not even sure, but Eddie told you it somehow proved something. It was a complete deflection, and you fell for it.

But Espinoza proved Sky would have UK rights and Eddie essentially conceded the screen shot was real.

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It was a screen shot from the contract. It proved Eddie was lying. Eddie didn't even deny that the screen shot was authentic. To fool fanboys like you, Eddie demanded that Espinoza post the entire contract, knowing it would be unprofessional for Espinoza to post an entire contract. In your mind, Espinoza not posting the entire contract proved . . . you're not even sure, but Eddie told you it somehow proved something. It was a complete deflection, and you fell for it.

But Espinoza proved Sky would have UK rights and Eddie essentially conceded the screen shot was real.

It would be unprofessional to show this supposed contract, but not unprofessional to show a part of it? How does that make sense to you? You wouldn't show anything of the "Contract" if that was your reasoning. There is no difference in showing some of it to showing all of it like Eddie was asking for.