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  • Sid-Knee
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    #61
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

    This is a lie. Showtime put up the $50 million Joshua asked for and he acted dishonorably and didn't keep his word.





    Stiverne vs. Breazeale in a final eliminator as the Wilder-Ortiz PPV co-feature was finalized, signed and announced for that specific date.

    When Stiverne had to fill in for Ortiz on short notice, Breazeale was legally entitled to a final eliminator, on that date, against the leading available contender (Molina).
    Showtime didn't put up $50 Mill. They used propaganda that has been completely exposed. Dishonourable is Wilder, Finkle, Showtime, Haymon and any other weirdo extremist out there who have been exposed as deranged.

    Stiverne vs Breazeal was to be on that date. But Breazeal didn't have a contract that specified his mandatory chance had to be on that date. That is another lie from you. Show me evidence?

    Do you know how much Fury and Wilder were in fact paid for their fight? Yeah, you know how much it was. However, Haymon doesn't pay you to put out truth. We know what he pays you for.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
      Showtime didn't put up $50 Mill. They used propaganda that has been completely exposed.
      Yes, they did put up $50 million. It was never "exposed." Maybe Hearn used propaganda on you.


      Stiverne vs Breazeal was to be on that date. But Breazeal didn't have a contract that specified his mandatory chance had to be on that date.
      He had a contract and had trained for a final eliminator on that date. Once the WBC approves his opponent filling in for the main event to save the show, he's legally entitled to a replacement opponent in a final eliminator.


      Do you know how much Fury and Wilder were in fact paid for their fight?
      Wilder was guaranteed $14 million. Fury was guaranteed $10.25 million.

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        #63
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

        Yes, they did put up $50 million. It was never "exposed." Maybe Hearn used propaganda on you.




        He had a contract and had trained for a final eliminator on that date. Once the WBC approves his opponent filling in for the main event to save the show, he's legally entitled to a replacement opponent in a final eliminator.




        Wilder was guaranteed $14 million. Fury was guaranteed $10.25 million.
        No they didn't. They tried to get the money from BT Sport when they knew AJ had a contract with Sky Sports and couldn't fight anywhere else unless he bought out his contract for millions.

        If they did that, Wilder would get paid nothing as there wouldn't be any more money left over.

        So you can't give me evidence that Breazeal had a contract for mandatory for THAT DATE? That's what i thought.

        Wilder was guaranteed $4 Mill. Fury $3 Mill. Try that one again too.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee
          No they didn't. They tried to get the money from BT Sport
          False. Espinoza posted the contract publicly and it said Sky could have UK rights.

          Hearn fooled you.

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            #65
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

            False. Espinoza posted the contract publicly and it said Sky could have UK rights.

            Hearn fooled you.
            There is loads of information of Finkle coming out and claiming that the fight would go to the highest bidder. Frank Warren admitted Finkle had been to see BT about putting the money up for the fight to be on their platform. That's where the money was coming from.

            Would that be the Espinoza that Eddie made a fool of on Twitter? That Espinoza?

            Have you accepted the guarantees made to Fury and Wilder were not what you said?

            And where is my evidence on Breazeal having a contract for fighting for mandatory on THAT DATE?

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              #66
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              There is loads of information of Finkle coming out and claiming that the fight would go to the highest bidder.
              The contract specifically stipulated that Sky would have the UK rights as long as the split and retail price were acceptable to Wilder and that his acceptance wouldn't be unreasonably withheld.


              Would that be the Espinoza that Eddie made a fool of on Twitter? That Espinoza?
              No, Eddie made a fool out of you. Espinoza exposed Eddie as a liar.


              Have you accepted the guarantees made to Fury and Wilder were not what you said?
              I already posted numerous credible sources that confirmed the guarantees were $14 million and $10.25 million. You're lying.


              And where is my evidence on Breazeal having a contract for fighting for mandatory on THAT DATE?
              He had a contract to fight an eliminator (not a mandatory) on that date. That is why he was allowed to face the highest rated available contender.

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                #67
                Sid-Knee still in here taking L's.

                Like McKinson did last week.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                  The WBC has never had a bribery scandal. They're the only ones who haven't. You're misinformed.
                  They were nearly bankrupted by a court ruling on their flip flopping on who was their light heavyweight champion in the 90's. They stripped Rochiggiani and let Roy Jones fight for the vacant belt when Jones was never the mandatory for the belt.

                  If you connect the dots you know money changed hands for that chicanery. Jose was a "special friend" with Don king so money was exchanged for the WBC consistently ranking King fighters and ruling in favor of King for title shots and mandatory defenses.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by low blows
                    They were nearly bankrupted by a court ruling on their flip flopping on who was their light heavyweight champion in the 90's.
                    Yes, that's true. But that wasn't a bribery scandal. Roy Jones was the champion and appeared to be leaving the weight class. He ended up not leaving the weight class. There was confusion over whether the title fight held during his period of limbo was for the interim title or for the full title. The WBC lost the lawsuit, so I will assume they were in the wrong, but that's very different from the WBA, IBF and WBO blatantly selling their rankings for cash year after year, something the WBC has never done.


                    Jose was a "special friend" with Don king so money was exchanged for the WBC consistently ranking King fighters and ruling in favor of King for title shots and mandatory defenses.
                    The WBC has always catered to the biggest stars and Don King had the biggest stars. That doesn't mean Don was literally paying cash bribes for specific rankings. It wasn't necessary. He was paying so much in sanctioning fees. There was no need. WBC rankings have never been for sale. The Sulaiman family is rich as **** and has been for many generations. They're not going to waste their time selling the #14 bantamweight ranking for $300 the way the other orgs do.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                      Yes, that's true. But that wasn't a bribery scandal. Roy Jones was the champion and appeared to be leaving the weight class. He ended up not leaving the weight class. There was confusion over whether the title fight held during his period of limbo was for the interim title or for the full title. The WBC lost the lawsuit, so I will assume they were in the wrong, but that's very different from the WBA, IBF and WBO blatantly selling their rankings for cash year after year, something the WBC has never done.




                      The WBC has always catered to the biggest stars and Don King had the biggest stars. That doesn't mean Don was literally paying cash bribes for specific rankings. It wasn't necessary. He was paying so much in sanctioning fees. There was no need. WBC rankings have never been for sale. The Sulaiman family is rich as **** and has been for many generations. They're not going to waste their time selling the #14 bantamweight ranking for $300 the way the other orgs do.
                      Interesting username. How did you feel about the WBOgus becoming a recognised title? I was very resistant to it and still feel weird about it now.

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