DAZN should fire Eddie Hearn.

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  • kafkod
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    #141
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

    Hearn is supposed to provide quality content for DAZN. He had the rights to Usyk-AJ 2. He sold them to the Saudi’s. He then failed to acquire them for DAZN. He took a gamble and f***ed up. Get over it.

    Literally everybody sees it apart from you Matchroom fanboys.
    Hearn didn't own the rights Usyk/AJ 2. They were shared equally between AJ and Usyk's management teams.

    And saying Eddie failed to aquire the UK rights for DAZN is like saying a gardener failed to fix your leaky rook after you hired him to mow the lawn. It may be a true statement, but it's also ridiculous!

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      #142
      Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

      Then you're arguing his point. Hearn isn't doing a good enough job securing good fights for DAZN.

      Either way I don't really care. I'm almost certain DAZNs deal with Joshua is filled with a bunch of caveats that make reaching the figure touted as nigh impossible. I've already seen this happen twice, once with Wilder (and their laughable multifight deal for him to fight Joshua) and with Canelo (who sued DAZN to be released). I don't think any of these contracts are worth the paper they're written on.

      Hearn has never been a particularly great promoter, but its not like DAZN is a particularly good platform either. I'm seeing more and more fighters leave and with Boxxers rise, it seems like Hearn will end up probably frozen out of major play in the UK and relegated to another player a la Warren. Boxing is still massively popular among boomers and gen Xers, so much so that expecting to get eyes on up and comers on a ****ing obscure boxing app seems like utter madness.

      In reality is says a lot about the current state of the labour market and British business. Too many beneficiaries of nepotism and not enough educated businessmen. Hearn tried to relicate the UFC model with DAZN in the US but he was going up against Haymon and Arum. Two Harvard educated businessmen with a history promoting some of the biggest fights and artists ever. Even in the UK he's seemingly getting the worst of Warren...but Warren has been in the game for years. He has more experience tha just about anyone on these shores. Hearn by comparison is a glorified telephone salesman. From what ive heard he's never really shown any real success managing any of his father's businesses before boxing. He doesn't show any real expertise in regards to boxing either. Can't seem to decipher a future champion or even talent. Seems like he got a lucky break having Sky's backing when Joshua turned pro and the rest is history.

      Boxing works in peaks and downturns and we seem to be in a peak. There's a lot of talent coming through and a lot of en****** wanting to spend their money. In a more competitive landscape we've only come to learn how amateur Hearn actually is. And I'm just talking about heavyweights. There's a guy in my boxing gym who recently signed with Warren. Bricktop may be a shifty bustard but the fact that he was even scouted by Warren shows just how much better Warren and Queensbury is at having their eyes to the ground and building names from grass-roots. That's fundamentally what works in the end.
      You call the deal DAZN offered to Wilder laughable, but it would have earned him more money than he ended up getting for fighting Fury instead, which Wilder himself admitted.

      And if Hearn is such a lousy promoter, then how come he's gotten AJ 3/4 times as much money for fighting Usyk than Arum/Warren were able to get Fury for fighting Wilder?
      Last edited by kafkod; 07-13-2022, 11:43 AM.

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        #143


        Originally posted by Toffee

        He literally had no accountability in this, nor the Fury-Whyte fight. It's not about me accepting that he had accountability, it's about you understanding that he didn't.

        Fury v Whyte was a mandatory for a Queensberry/Top Rank fighter. Process that for a second - it wasn't his fight! Ultimately it went to a purse bid and Matchroom backed by DAZN offered what they were willing to spend and were outbid by someone willing to spend more. Hearn isn't responsible for delivering fights to DAZN that others promote, nor fights made at purse bid that DAZN doesn't want to pay for!

        Hearn also isn't (or at least wasn't) responsible for delivering Joshua fights to DAZN.

        Your answer seems to be that, regardless of any deals prior, he should be delivering the Joshua v Usyk rights to DAZN.

        Maybe that's why, I'm assuming, you don't run a business. Because you don't give away something for nothing. Networks pay huge money to have exclusivity or priority on big name fighters. DAZN hadn't paid any of that when it came to Joshua. Joshua had a deal with Sky. Then he had no broadcast deal.

        Why would he give that away for nothing when so many companies will pay huge for it? You can't possibly think that. It would be extremely naive.

        And just a reminder. Hearn is Matchroom, not DAZN. His contract, at the point of this fight being made, was to deliver fights to DAZN, excluding Joshua.

        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT



        Behave mate…
        Don't know what you're laughing at. Toffee blew you out of the water with the points he made there.

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          #144
          Originally posted by kafkod






          Don't know what you're laughing at. Toffee blew you out of the water with the points he made there.
          Maybe in your delusional and simple mind.

          The lead promoter for DAZN is not in any way accountable for DAZN not being able to acquire the rights to a fight he’s promoting.

          We’re just laughing at you Matchroom simps at this point.

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            #145
            Originally posted by Clive Davenport
            They’re still at it…

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              #146
              Is DAZN coming out ahead thanks to their partnership with Eddie Hearn? Or is he actually hurting their bottom line?

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                #147
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                Maybe in your delusional and simple mind.

                The lead promoter for DAZN is not in any way accountable for DAZN not being able to acquire the rights to a fight he’s promoting.

                We’re just laughing at you Matchroom simps at this point.
                Correct. Hearn isn't accountable because UK rights to AJ's fights were not part of the deal when Eddie linked up with DAZN. That's why AJ vs Usyk 1 wasn't screened on DAZN in the UK either.

                Facts are facts and childish insults won't alter them. Like I told you earlier, facts don't care about your feelings.
                Last edited by kafkod; 07-13-2022, 01:58 PM.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                  Maybe in your delusional and simple mind.

                  The lead promoter for DAZN is not in any way accountable for DAZN not being able to acquire the rights to a fight he’s promoting.

                  We’re just laughing at you Matchroom simps at this point.
                  For a fighter specifically excluded from the DAZN deal.

                  You don't give up exclusivity to a network who isn't paying for it.

                  Put it this way, why should DAZN have been given the UK rights to the fight?

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                    #149
                    You two just can’t accept it can you? Your love for Hearn knows no bounds.

                    A promoter employed by DAZN to deliver content fails to secure the UK rights to a fight he is promoting! How is he not accountable?

                    D-E-L-U-S-I-O-N-A-L.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      Is DAZN coming out ahead thanks to their partnership with Eddie Hearn? Or is he actually hurting their bottom line?
                      The accounts don’t paint pretty picture to say the least. I’m sure people will tell you “it’s not his fault” though.

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