Wilder probably beats all heavyweights except Tyson Fury

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #1

    Wilder probably beats all heavyweights except Tyson Fury

    Let me put it this way.

    It took Fury to change trainers, styles, to switch between styles to beat Wilder. And Fury is consensus top heavyweight in the world. And he was nearly knocked out in the first fight, and he was dropped twice in the third fight.

    Ruiz, Joyce, Joshua and others would be f.ucking easy targets for a hitter like Wilder is. Nobody except Fury in the second fight avoided Wilder`s right hand.

    IF Wilder comes back, I can see him on the top. You want me to believe he can`t KO Joyce, Hrgovic, Ruiz, Joshua? LOl, I don`t believe that.

    Wilder became underrated over the night because Fury destroyed him.
    Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 07-05-2022, 03:04 PM.
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    If Wilder has anything left to give he is dangerous for anybody. Everybody talks about his lack of boxing abilities but that in itself makes him awkward and his right hand is lethal.

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    • hugh grant
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      That's why we need wilder to comeback. Wilder is a good win for fury. But it's a pity for fury many think Josh beats wilder also. That's why we need to see them fight. If wilder beats josh, those wins for fury become greater
      Last edited by hugh grant; 07-05-2022, 04:13 PM.

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      • Charlie Zelenoff
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        #4
        Wilder loses to Usyk imo. Everyone else he'd most likely beat.

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          #5
          If josh beats wilder, then fury would need to beat josh. But don't need to wait to see if Josh can beat wilder. Just fight and beat josh yourself

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            #6
            facts

            I've always said if Wilder lands that same right on Usyk that dropped Fury ,, Usyk may not get up after that

            and if he does , he won't recover the same way Fury did either ... Fury is alot of mass and body fat to absorbs those right hands that Usyk doesn't have


            "He has to be perfect for 12 rounds , I only need 2 seconds."

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            • mxtali
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              #7
              Him beating anyone else is a valid opinion, but Fury didn’t “need” to change trainers or styles. He got robbed outright the first time around

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              • M312
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                Wilder has power, but against poor opposition.

                When was the last time Wilder won a round of boxing without a KD? 2016? Arreola?

                Dude is not good.

                He's arguably only faced 2 decent boxers, Fury, who he lost every round to over 3 fights and Ortiz who he lost every round to until his damaged heart gave in.

                I like him for his excitement, but... He's just not good.

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                • -Kev-
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                  #9
                  I think so too. Although Usyk is interesting. I want to see how he handles AJ a second time. Does he beat him again or does he pull a Ruiz and let AJ win?

                  #2 could be between Wilder and Usyk. I don’t know.

                  But #1 is def Fury. I don’t think Usyk or AJ could beat him.

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                  • -Kev-
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by M312
                    Wilder has power, but against poor opposition.

                    When was the last time Wilder won a round of boxing without a KD? 2016? Arreola?

                    Dude is not good.

                    He's arguably only faced 2 decent boxers, Fury, who he lost every round to over 3 fights and Ortiz who he lost every round to until his damaged heart gave in.

                    I like him for his excitement, but... He's just not good.
                    You can’t get too far with just power in boxing.

                    That’s an insult to every boxer who laced them up.

                    You absolutely need others traits. At the very minimum, you need a good chin. Secondly, after a good chin, you need above average accuracy. You also can’t tell me you do not see the timing in Wilder’s punches.

                    Yes, Wilder has below average footwork and handspeed. Those are his flaws. His defense is also average. Those 3 things he doesn’t do very well.

                    He also has something you can’t teach, grit and determination. There is zero quit in that man. You can’t just hit him hard on the button a couple of times and make him fold.

                    I guess these are only things you would observe if you at least put the gloves in, at the very least, just sparring. Not even amateur. Just head into a gym, spar for a while vs a few other guys. And you will see that if all you have is power, if that is really all you have, you are going to be in trouble by even the most incompetent sparring partners.

                    One of the most overused phrases from fans. “He only has power.” Smh. And if you have ever sparred, and you think that, then idk what to say.

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