Wilder probably beats all heavyweights except Tyson Fury

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  • REDEEMER
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    #11
    Originally posted by M312
    Wilder has power, but against poor opposition.

    When was the last time Wilder won a round of boxing without a KD? 2016? Arreola?

    Dude is not good.

    He's arguably only faced 2 decent boxers, Fury, who he lost every round to over 3 fights and Ortiz who he lost every round to until his damaged heart gave in.

    I like him for his excitement, but... He's just not good.
    He won a few rounds against Fury but it was one sided despite some crazies on here saying otherwise .


    Wilder had to be good to get or maintain winning title fights but as you stated against who ? Where would Wilder actually place if he did fight the same guys A.J did and then we include Hrgovic, Joyce and even Mahkmudov who are all pulverizing punchers then there’s questions about the type of guys he hasn’t fought so there’s literally zero proof he is the second best heavyweight it’s nonsense when he hasn’t won in 3 years to .


    Wilders best attributes are speed ,power and confidence but his chin really isn’t that great I think a true boxer puncher knocks him out at least at this point . Most Wilder fights against the real top guys are seen as 50/50 ,he cannot win rounds and he relies on stoppages which is a recipe for disaster waiting to happen again . A.J , Fury Usyk, Hrgovic, Joyce are favored over him . The rest is just ? Well Wilder needs to fight them to get the answers .

    Best wins Ortiz doesn’t get a number 2 spot , I swear these guys better hope Ortiz wins against Ruiz or it’s all over for them yea yea guys I know I’m the big bad hater on here posting facts again with educated opinions I get it .
    Last edited by REDEEMER; 07-05-2022, 07:11 PM.

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    • tritium_arma
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      #12
      Based on the 2 top five opponents he ever fought and beat? One being 40+ years old and the other being the worst or second worst champion in boxing history.

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      • Charlie Zelenoff
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        #13
        Originally posted by Earl-Hickey

        One right hand from Wilder and Ukraine loses the war, srs.

        Wilder isn't going to land a right hand on Usyk. His movement will be too much for the bronze bomber.

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        • hhh1200
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          #14
          Wilder trigger is good. Usyk gets hit and isn't as quick as Spilka. I wouldn't mind seeing it if Wilder can get back on track.

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          • Charlie Zelenoff
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            #15
            Originally posted by tritium_arma
            Based on the 2 top five opponents he ever fought and beat? One being 40+ years old and the other being the worst or second worst champion in boxing history.
            This ^^^^. Wilder has literally beaten a grandpa and a paper champ in stiverine. I like Deontay but his opposition has been very poor and his ring IQ is below average. If he's the No. 2 guy in the division he'll have to prove it.
            Last edited by Charlie Zelenoff; 07-05-2022, 08:21 PM.

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            • Brother Mouzone
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              #16
              IDK , that power is the equalizer though . 50/50 fight against Joshua & Usyk IMHO ....

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                #17
                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                Let me put it this way.

                It took Fury to change trainers, styles, to switch between styles to beat Wilder. And Fury is consensus top heavyweight in the world. And he was nearly knocked out in the first fight, and he was dropped twice in the third fight.

                Ruiz, Joyce, Joshua and others would be f.ucking easy targets for a hitter like Wilder is. Nobody except Fury in the second fight avoided Wilder`s right hand.

                IF Wilder comes back, I can see him on the top. You want me to believe he can`t KO Joyce, Hrgovic, Ruiz, Joshua? LOl, I don`t believe that.

                Wilder became underrated over the night because Fury destroyed him.
                - - Ain't no probably U the dumberest glass jaw since Marsellos...

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                  #18
                  Ah, so we’re awarding Wilder fantasy victories now.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Charlie Zelenoff


                    Wilder isn't going to land a right hand on Usyk. His movement will be too much for the bronze bomber.
                    Usyk isn't that hard to land on, ask Tony Bellew.

                    At some point Wilder detonates that right hand on Usyk and then it's goodnight sweet prince.

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                    • BoxOfficer
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Golden Bull
                      Ah, so we’re awarding Wilder fantasy victories now.
                      That's exactly what this site has turned into. What a shame!

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