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Resume is one of the greatness trio with title defense and H2H ability. But, it is cringy in some VS threads. Resume ain't everything. A less proven fighter can beat a more proven fighter. Eye test is significant too.Comment
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Resume is about as good of a barometer as you will get. It's not perfect and you can poke holes in anyone's resume if you look hard enough.
Other factors are when you fought who you fought (i.e. Frazier and Berbick both have wins over Ali but they aren't the same) and who didn't you fight that you realistically could have.
On a side note: moving up in weight isn't always about looking for better competition, sometimes it's about opportunity or even swerving people.Comment
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At the end of the day, a fan will always go check and see what a guy's resume looks like. They won't admit it to it obviously.
Heck, how can we even judge a simple p4p list without checking them ?
It's telling how one fighter can get props for beating a ton of shlteaters while never testing themselves.
How do we know they don't test themselves ?!?!?
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Not always true, Canelo could have unified at 154 by fighting Charlo and Andrade but instead moved up to fight Chavez Jr and GGG, who were arguably less difficult fights. And then instead of unifying at 160 with Andrade, he goes to 168 with less competition to unify instead - which he avoided doing at 154 and 160. It is perfectly possible to move up for the sake less competitive fights rather than more.
And resumes can be overrated because they largely don't mean much when some fighters like Canelo can get any fight they want and others like Andrade can barely get any. If everyone were forced to fight each other, then yea resumes would have much more meaning than they do now. And all fighters will look bad at some point even against bums or journeymen because of styles. Being able to pick any opponent you want allows you to pick styles that suit you even if the opponent themselves are highly ranked. That is also the reason why Mayweather and Canelo have almost never done manadatories like the other fighters who you say aren't as good have. And would you look at that - the fighters who never do mandatories always look amazing in their fights.
And while we're on the topic, Mayweather who is supposedly the greatest fighter of all time has never once beaten an elite fighter in their prime at their best weight and yes that includes Corrales. He's an extremely unproven fighter when measured by that standard. But his resume can easily give the illusion he's fought primed elite fighters if you don't dissect it.
So yea resumes can definitely be overrated which is why you have to also include the eye test.Comment
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1) A bigger bum > a same sized bum. Strange how a 3 lettered mug wouldn't even risk that much
2) A person doesn't have to move up to ''duck'' a person. Just ask Bud.
3) A resume is what it is. A fan of the sport (not a fan of the fighter) will know a quality resume when they see one.
4) May > everyone in his era. That's ''great' enough. Also, in every Fantasy Fight scenario, May is matched with guys who are at their absolute best while he isn't. WW May is n ot the best version. No other fighter is matched vs ''ATG'' than May. IMHO no one beats PBF (yeah, yeah, JLC 1. ZZzzzz....)
5) Again, resumes are what they are.Comment
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It's not that resumes don't matter, it's that half of then aren't as good as suggested anyway. When you think about most of the guys Canelo fought, none of them will have gone on to do anything particularly special...other than GGG (whose too old anyway) and Floyd (who he lost to). Guys like Smith, Saunders etc aren't anything resembling ATG in their own right anyway.
Resume should only really come into consideration when a fighter is retired.Comment
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