"Beterbiev is not in my league" James Toney

[billeau2]

Sorry, where did I say Beterbeiv will KO Toney? Or are you just on your period again?

I'm literally quoting what Toney said regarding Beterbiev not being on his level. You take that as "hate" because you're incredibly feminine.

Toney didn't win a title at LHW. Seems way far out to consider him being a level above Beterbiev in regards to their standing as LHW's but this is a discussion board after all, you know, where discussions are supposed to take place? Instead of crying like a little baby make your case for why he's a level above Beterbiev.

Haha! here is the general himself! The antiToney forces regrouping!

titles are relative to the competition. Toney fought a higher class of competition generalissimo!
Actually... The one crying is you general... Me? Just pointing out how ridiculous it is to say with certainty that a guy who is a KO artist would somehow absolutely beat a great fighter like Toney. obviously if Toney cannot be Ko'ed it makes it harder for Bieterbiev to beat him toots! is it possible? Of course! But knowing that Bieterbev loops his shots and what a tremendous counter puncher Toney was, is an important consideration here!

[buddyr]

Outboxing Beterbiev is not that hard - he is not a great classical boxer.

However, his ring IQ is very good and he maximises what physical tools he does have - immense power and inside strength. Not to mention he can punch just as hard on the backfoot as on the front foot too.

At some point he will catch Toney and Toney's legs will go to jelly. Then the shoulder rolls becomes less effective. He gets caught again and then the shoulder roll becomes obsolete.

Toney's chin is an all time great one. What makes you believe Beterbiev hits harder than Hasim Rahman or Sam Peter? lol

[billeau2]

Montell Griffin was a very good fighter. He was giving Roy jones all he could handle in the first fight before the DQ. Roy was looking human.

I would rate Griffin at his best in around a top twenty list for great light heavies. Him and Michael Moorer are two fighters that seem to be under rated. Also, actually watching those two fights? They were very very close, but in at least one Toney should have gotten the nod imo.

[IronDanHamza]

Haha! here is the general himself! The antiToney forces regrouping!

titles are relative to the competition. Toney fought a higher class of competition generalissimo!
Actually... The one crying is you general... Me? Just pointing out how ridiculous it is to say with certainty that a guy who is a KO artist would somehow absolutely beat a great fighter like Toney. obviously if Toney cannot be Ko'ed it makes it harder for Bieterbiev to beat him toots! is it possible? Of course! But knowing that Bieterbev loops his shots and what a tremendous counter puncher Toney was, is an important consideration here!

You are literally crying like a little baby because some people are picking Beterbiev to win If it wasn't funny it would be sad.

Throwing the word hate around because somebody quoted what someone said on a discussion board Get a grip man, go and buy some tampons.

WHO said Beterbiev would KO Toney with certainty mate? Not me, I haven't even said who I think would win. Yet here you are like a woman with your emotional irrelevant ramblings.

Also, Toney's not a great fighter. Neither is Beterbiev.

[MONGOOSE66]

James Toney has come out and said that Artur Beterbiev is "Good but still not in my league"

I find that strange considering James Toney couldn't even win a title at Light Heavyweight

Who wins this one?

REALLY?? No one on here has ever heard Toney talk highly of himself? This isn’t news nor is it worthy of being a topic.

[ShoulderRoll]

Toney had a great chin (proven even against heavyweights) and old school defensive moves lifted from Ezzard Charles.

I think he beats Beterbiev on points.

[IronDanHamza]

REALLY?? No one on here has ever heard Toney talk highly of himself? This isn’t news nor is it worthy of being a topic.

I can make a topic on whatever I want to mate.

If it doesn't interest you, don't post in the thread you clown.

[IronDanHamza]

Toney had a great chin (proven even against heavyweights) and old school defensive moves lifted from Ezzard Charles.

I think he beats Beterbiev on points.

I'd say James Toney and Ezzard Charles are almost polar opposites to be honest.

That said, he could beat Beterbiev on points. SD esque fight more than likely.

[ShoulderRoll]

I'd say James Toney and Ezzard Charles are almost polar opposites to be honest.

That said, he could beat Beterbiev on points. SD esque fight more than likely.

Kronk trainer Bill Miller had Toney look at film of Ezzard Charles, Chalky Wright, Battling Siki, Jersey Joe Walcott, and Archie Moore among others.

HIs old school moves came from there.

[billeau2]

You are literally crying like a little baby because some people are picking Beterbiev to win If it wasn't funny it would be sad.

Throwing the word hate around because somebody quoted what someone said on a discussion board Get a grip man, go and buy some tampons.

WHO said Beterbiev would KO Toney with certainty mate? Not me, I haven't even said who I think would win. Yet here you are like a woman with your emotional irrelevant ramblings.

Also, Toney's not a great fighter. Neither is Beterbiev.

Yes general... my eyes are wet as I feel pangs of sympathy for those afflicted with an unnatural hate for Toney. General general general... Female hygeine products aside... So you pick Toney to win? YES/NO just as I thought... I aplogize general i had no idea you would pick Toney. My bad! Great pick!