"Beterbiev is not in my league" James Toney

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #51
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

    Kronk trainer Bill Miller had Toney look at film of Ezzard Charles, Chalky Wright, Battling Siki, Jersey Joe Walcott, and Archie Moore among others.

    HIs old school moves came from there.

    What's that got to do with the fact that Toney and Ezzard Charles are polar opposites as fighters?

    Mike Tyson studied hours of tapes of Kid Gavilan and Sugar Ray Robinson. He fights polar opposite to both.

    Mayweather studied hours of tape of Roberto Duran. He fights polar opposite to him.

    In all honesty Toney fights nothing like any of the above you listed, perhaps closest being Archie Moore but obviously Archie Moore is in a total different stratosphere compared to Toney as a fighter.
    Last edited by IronDanHamza; 07-07-2022, 02:15 PM.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #52
      Originally posted by billeau2

      Yes general... my eyes are wet as I feel pangs of sympathy for those afflicted with an unnatural hate for Toney. General general general... Female hygeine products aside... So you pick Toney to win? YES/NO just as I thought... I aplogize general i had no idea you would pick Toney. My bad! Great pick!
      I'd expect an either way fight, probably lean on Beterbiev as he is the better LHW of the two.

      One things for sure though, he's certainly not levels above Beterbiev.

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      • billeau2
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        #53
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza

        What's that got to do with the fact that Toney and Ezzard Charles are polar opposites as fighters?

        Mike Tyson studied hours of tapes of Kid Gavilan and Sugar Ray Robinson. He fights polar opposite to both.

        Mayweather studied hours of tape of Roberto Duran. He fights polar opposite to him.

        In all honesty Toney fights nothing like any of the above you listed, perhaps closest being Archie Moore but obviously Archie Moore is in a total different stratosphere compared to Toney as a fighter.
        General... ever since James stole that chicken wing from you...

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        • JakeTheBoxer
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          #54
          You people are taking this p4p sh.it too seriously.

          If it was real, Canelo would beat Bivol easily.

          Toney being multi division champion doesn`t mean he would beat Beterbiev at 175.

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            #55
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza

            I'd expect an either way fight, probably lean on Beterbiev as he is the better LHW of the two.

            One things for sure though, he's certainly not levels above Beterbiev.
            it depends, hard to say. Toney's potential and when it came through was superb, despite him underperforming many times. Beterbiev might turn out to be so as well... Although these guys start professionally so damn late these days... I honestly don't know what body of work we will see from Arture given his present age. But no, not levels above, fair enough.

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              #56
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
              You people are taking this p4p sh.it too seriously.

              If it was real, Canelo would beat Bivol easily.

              Toney being multi division champion doesn`t mean he would beat Beterbiev at 175.
              No... Your missing something. Think logistics... Think styles not relative greatness. Im waiting for someone to explain to me how a guy who is a puncher, with a looping delivery, is not custom made for a guy who has one of the best beards in boxing and is an expert counter puncher...

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              • War Room
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                #57
                Originally posted by buddyr

                If Sam Peter couldn't stop Toney, I seriously doubt a lthw would hahaha
                Toney has been put on his ass by lesser punchers than Peter. How about them apples?

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                • TheOneAboveAll
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                  #58
                  IDK, I'm guessing he was misquoted. Who the hell could understand a word that comes out of James Toney's mouth in 2022? Dude sounds like he swallowed a sock.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll
                    IDK, I'm guessing he was misquoted. Who the hell could understand a word that comes out of James Toney's mouth in 2022? Dude sounds like he swallowed a sock.
                    He said it on his instagram post so it's in writing

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                    • MONGOOSE66
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                      I can make a topic on whatever I want to mate.

                      If it doesn't interest you, don't post in the thread you clown.
                      Yup, you just can’t fix ******. I’ve learned my lesson.

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