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  • #41
    Originally posted by jonnyc420 View Post

    I agree and it's sad, he's putting his bottom line ahead of Chisora's health. These beatings he's taking are taking their toll on his brain, may not see it now but in 10 years? I like Del Boy too he's a fighter for sure but sometimes you gotta save a man from himself. Even if he'll continue elsewhere Hearn has gotta wash his hands rather than keep trotting Chisora out there.
    I thought there were some scary signs in the second Parker fight. It looked like Chisora’s punch resistance had considerably declined. The worst thing about Chisora is his toughness, bravery etc. He’s not just taking one shot, he’s taking beatings man. How many clean shots has this man taken from 14 stone+ men? It’s got to be in the thousands.
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    • #42
      Originally posted by richardt View Post

      The only one pretending is someone who looks at the list I created and then says all the top fighters are not facing each other which flies in the face of reality. This is about the heavyweight division.
      122 - when will Mj fight Fulton . Fulton fight Inoue . Inoue fight Mj

      118 - what held Inoue vs Casimero up post-covid

      130 - Colbert vs Shakur? what happened? Shakur vs Cordina or Argentina champ?

      135 - Haney vs Teo? Haney vs Loma , pre franchise? Haney vs Tank? Tank vs Loma? Ryan vs Tank? tell me more please how the best fight the best

      147 - what's holding up Crawford vs Spence? what about Boots or Vergirl vs either? tell me more please

      160 - Charlo vs DAZN guys ? what happened?

      168 - Plant vs Bena? Canelo vs Bena? PBC 168 vs DAZN 168? Tell me more how the best fight the best

      175 - Beterbiev vs Bivol ? I guess I'm the only one pretending huh

      HW - Wilder vs AJ? Aj vs Fury? Wilder vs Usyk? AJ vs Joyce ? WIlder vs Whyte?


      yeah , list 5 fights (Fury vs Wilder , Fury vs Whyte , Aj vs Usyk) ,, and tell me more how the best are fighting the best in all of boxing

      even if you make the discussion only about heavyweights .. the top 4 still haven't mixed it all the way up . yeah but I guess I'm the one pretending , not you huh

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      • #43
        Originally posted by richardt View Post
        For a 12 loss heavyweight to continue to get headlines shows a sad state of affairs for the division.
        He’s an entertaining fighter & personality. He has a solid fanbase & people pay to watch him. Zab Judah & Paulie Malinaggi kept getting big fights past their best days because they both were extremely popular & sold tickets. Fighting those 2 on the road was good for the bank account. The same can be said for Chisora.
        I am ok with him fighting Pulev. I would be cool watching him fight Arreola, Kownacki, Helenius or Charr. Faded HWs fighting each other is cool with me. I always use the Frans Botha/Michael Grant fight as an example. Both were on the back 9 of their careers but put together a surprisingly entertaining fight for the fans.
        Last edited by joe strong; 06-26-2022, 11:38 PM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by arumhaymonhearn View Post

          122 - when will Mj fight Fulton . Fulton fight Inoue . Inoue fight Mj

          118 - what held Inoue vs Casimero up post-covid

          130 - Colbert vs Shakur? what happened? Shakur vs Cordina or Argentina champ?

          135 - Haney vs Teo? Haney vs Loma , pre franchise? Haney vs Tank? Tank vs Loma? Ryan vs Tank? tell me more please how the best fight the best

          147 - what's holding up Crawford vs Spence? what about Boots or Vergirl vs either? tell me more please

          160 - Charlo vs DAZN guys ? what happened?

          168 - Plant vs Bena? Canelo vs Bena? PBC 168 vs DAZN 168? Tell me more how the best fight the best

          175 - Beterbiev vs Bivol ? I guess I'm the only one pretending huh

          HW - Wilder vs AJ? Aj vs Fury? Wilder vs Usyk? AJ vs Joyce ? WIlder vs Whyte?


          yeah , list 5 fights (Fury vs Wilder , Fury vs Whyte , Aj vs Usyk) ,, and tell me more how the best are fighting the best in all of boxing

          even if you make the discussion only about heavyweights .. the top 4 still haven't mixed it all the way up . yeah but I guess I'm the one pretending , not you huh

          There are 3 current undisputed champions.
          canelo 168
          ​​charlo 154
          haney 135

          And possibly 3 more to be crowmed by the end of 2022.

          Fulton vs mj 122
          Inoue vs butler 118
          Crawford vs spence 147

          And 3 more champions with 3 belts in beterbiev, taylor and usyk.

          Add Shakur 130 and golovkin 160 and that's another 2 unified champions.

          Champions are fighting champions. And this is the proof

          Last edited by Hustle; 06-26-2022, 09:40 PM.

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          • #45
            Don't see how anybody can hate on Delboy, he's been an anybody any place kind of fighter his entire career. He's never ducked anybody and fought a whos who of the division.

            ​​​​​​If only more of this generation of boxers had his attitude to the sport we'd get so many more good fights

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            • #46
              12L can make a decent living stacking up the L's.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by arumhaymonhearn View Post

                122 - when will Mj fight Fulton . Fulton fight Inoue . Inoue fight Mj

                118 - what held Inoue vs Casimero up post-covid

                130 - Colbert vs Shakur? what happened? Shakur vs Cordina or Argentina champ?

                135 - Haney vs Teo? Haney vs Loma , pre franchise? Haney vs Tank? Tank vs Loma? Ryan vs Tank? tell me more please how the best fight the best

                147 - what's holding up Crawford vs Spence? what about Boots or Vergirl vs either? tell me more please

                160 - Charlo vs DAZN guys ? what happened?

                168 - Plant vs Bena? Canelo vs Bena? PBC 168 vs DAZN 168? Tell me more how the best fight the best

                175 - Beterbiev vs Bivol ? I guess I'm the only one pretending huh

                HW - Wilder vs AJ? Aj vs Fury? Wilder vs Usyk? AJ vs Joyce ? WIlder vs Whyte?


                yeah , list 5 fights (Fury vs Wilder , Fury vs Whyte , Aj vs Usyk) ,, and tell me more how the best are fighting the best in all of boxing

                even if you make the discussion only about heavyweights .. the top 4 still haven't mixed it all the way up . yeah but I guess I'm the one pretending , not you huh
                First of all, I never responded to or discussed ANYTHING other than the heavyweight division in this thread - so a little reading comprehension would go a long way. I mentioned a good number of top heavyweights that fought each other so what the hell are you mentioning other weight divisions for? I guess English is not your first language. Stick to the topic on hand!
                Last edited by richardt; 06-27-2022, 12:02 AM.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
                  Nobody wants to see that. There are many interesting fights for Chisora, like Kownacki, Arreola, Rice, Helenius rematch, Bryan, Ortiz, Martin..
                  what is wrong with this fight?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by famicommander View Post

                    He's a journeyman who sometimes drags better fighters down to his level for entertaining scraps. He was never anything more than that and he never will be.
                    Im a fan... knowing that Derrick is no Joe Louis so to speak.... What is not to like with Del Boy? He never let a loss, or the prospect of losing a fight stop him, he has always been at least competative in the ring.

                    If more fighters did what he did, fought, with no regard for trying to be undefeated, we would not have such a logger jam for the guys coming up. And one thing we can probably all agree upon: The build up and fight with Haye was fabulous.
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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                      Im a fan... knowing that Derrick is no Joe Louis so to speak.... What is not to like with Del Boy? He never let a loss, or the prospect of losing a fight stop him, he has always been at least competative in the ring.

                      If more fighters did what he did, fought, with no regard for trying to be undefeated, we would not have such a logger jam for the guys coming up. And one thing we can probably all agree upon: The build up and fight with Haye was fabulous.
                      I never said I didn't like him.

                      I said that he's consistently overrated and overhyped.

                      Everyone likes him so much that they convince themselves he's much better than he really is, which causes them to think he won fights he lost clearly and causes them to think he has a chance to beat fighters he has no business in the ring with.

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