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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #31
    Originally posted by War Room


    I'm talking adjectives, you're talking nouns. If you knew Paul Williams fights you would know that was an atypical performance for him. I'll just leave it at that Mr. Knowitalltownedrunkondutchgold.
    You’re talking nonsense. The definition of unbeatable is not able to be defeated. You’re telling me Paul Williams looked unbeatable? So that same Paul Williams who fought Margarito would have beaten Hearns, Leonard, Robinson, Napoles etc. GTFOH. You’re probably one of them morons that thinks he would have beaten Mayweather.

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      #32
      Originally posted by BustedKnuckles

      I agree with this. When I clicked on the title, I thought the thread was going to be whether this is an unbeatable style. So I started thinking about how many straight boxers have won over hitters lately. But then we know punchers take home the belt sometimes too. And boxer punchers have their standouts too.

      So my thought was the same; like they say, styles make fights. It is very interesting how a fighter can look so next level over one guy, and then a same level guy as that opponent brings him down a notch. If it was too predictable, it would lose it's appeal. That's why bully fights don't entertain in the same way.

      It's like a long math problem, and if you ignore order of operations, you can the run the same numbers and get different answers.
      I completely agree. It’s impossible to define any fighter or individual performance as unbeatable because of how volatile a fight can be. Things can change so quickly in the ring. It only takes one break in concentration, one small mistake and no fighter is perfect.

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        #33
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

        You’re talking nonsense. The definition of unbeatable is not able to be defeated. You’re telling me Paul Williams looked unbeatable? So that same Paul Williams who fought Margarito would have beaten Hearns, Leonard, Robinson, Napoles etc. GTFOH. You’re probably one of them morons that thinks he would have beaten Mayweather.
        Your entire existense here is rubbish. All you do is jock UK bums and you act like you know a thing or two which you clearly don't.

        Napoles ---> NAPOLES??? That guy lost to plenty of bums. You're literally the worst.

        On that night I do think he would have beaten Floyd and despite being a Floyd fan, Floyd ducked Williams.
        • In 2007, Williams according to Floyd was still wet behind the ears.
        • After Williams beat Winky in 2009: Mayweather says he isn't a big name fighter so he won't fight him yet.
        • At another point I don't have a date for, Floyd said isn't he a middle-weight?
        In this recent video from last year when asked about Margarito, Floyd starts going nuts! He's extremely mad, extremely! When asked about Manny, he's frothing at the mouth, real talk! When asked about Williams, he gets reeeeeal quiet lmao! The fight could have happened, but it didn't.

        He's still wet behind the ears, isn't a big name fighter, isn't he a middle-weight?



        Originally posted by buge
        both the fights you mentioned went to decision.
        So?

        Originally posted by W1LL
        Aren't you special? You should hide your autism better if you want to be taken seriously. You've been here 8 years, shut up.
        It's always a special moment when someone uses words out of context.

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          #34
          Originally posted by War Room

          Your entire existense here is rubbish. All you do is jock UK bums and you act like you know a thing or two which you clearly don't.

          Napoles ---> NAPOLES??? That guy lost to plenty of bums. You're literally the worst.

          On that night I do think he would have beaten Floyd and despite being a Floyd fan, Floyd ducked Williams.
          • In 2007, Williams according to Floyd was still wet behind the ears.
          • After Williams beat Winky in 2009: Mayweather says he isn't a big name fighter so he won't fight him yet.
          • At another point I don't have a date for, Floyd said isn't he a middle-weight?
          In this recent video from last year when asked about Margarito, Floyd starts going nuts! He's extremely mad, extremely! When asked about Manny, he's frothing at the mouth, real talk! When asked about Williams, he gets reeeeeal quiet lmao! The fight could have happened, but it didn't.

          He's still wet behind the ears, isn't a big name fighter, isn't he a middle-weight?
          So you are one of those morons who thinks Williams could have beat Mayweather.

          That’s easy work for Floyd. Williams is overrated by idiots with agendas like yourself.

          You always get all emotional like this when you get proven wrong. Keep believing fighters are “unbeatable” though you f***ing dumbass.

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            #35
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

            So you are one of those morons who thinks Williams could have beat Mayweather.

            That’s easy work for Floyd. Williams is overrated by idiots with agendas like yourself.

            You always get all emotional like this when you get proven wrong. Keep believing fighters are “unbeatable” though you f***ing dumbass.
            You're the armchair moron that never did anything boxing related outside of stocking shelves at the corner shop. UK boxing blows, nobody cares about your shithouse rounds ups.

            Look at your posts, everyone that disagree's with you is wrong. Don't you see it? Everybody is wrong but you ---> I mean, if you have any type of credentials it would be different, but your a nobody that's never done anything inside or outside the sport. Let me know when you get world champs on speed dial you pleb.

            My agenda is the truth and what happened. You're just a daft cunt pretender. I can be objective when it comes to my favorite fighters and prove that on a daiy basis. Doing it now, Floyd is in my top 5, Williams isn't. Why don't you go get another asda you sloshed eejit lol.

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              #36
              Originally posted by War Room

              You're the armchair moron that never did anything boxing related outside of stocking shelves at the corner shop. UK boxing blows, nobody cares about your shithouse rounds ups.

              Look at your posts, everyone that disagree's with you is wrong. Don't you see it? Everybody is wrong but you ---> I mean, if you have any type of credentials it would be different, but your a nobody that's never done anything inside or outside the sport. Let me know when you get world champs on speed dial you pleb.

              My agenda is the truth and what happened. You're just a daft *********** pretender. I can be objective when it comes to my favorite fighters and prove that on a daiy basis. Doing it now, Floyd is in my top 5, Williams isn't. Why don't you go get another asda you sloshed eejit lol.
              Look how emotional you are…

              I’ve definitely had more fights than you and I’ve definitely been to more shows than you’ll probably ever go to. I’ve probably been to Vegas more times than you and I live in the UK. I’m anything but an armchair fan. I consistently support the sport at all levels.

              Nearly everybody disagrees with your nonsense daily on here, you’re a sad internet troll with nothing better going on in your life. A complete loser who’s closest thing to a human relationship is probably ******* off to your favourite p***star every night.

              Keep believing Paul Williams was “unbeatable” you dumb f***.

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                #37
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                I don’t think he looked anywhere near impossible to beat though. I think several HW’s would have beaten Douglas that night.
                What exactly does it mean to "look unbeatable?" I think it means you see as near to perfect technique strung together... Ill grant you that you can argue for times when even on a great looking night a fighter makes an error... Ill grant you that. But ultimately the reason why Louis is considered so great (for example) is how perfect his punches looked. The reason "unbeatable" and "perfect" go together is because unless a fighter has other attributes that make them unbeatable... someone like Jones or Ali with their athletic ability (for example), what makes a fighter good, bad, elite, whatever is technique.

                We can agree to disagree on Douglas. I think he looked really hard to beat that night and would have been a handful for any heavyweight that night.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                  Look how emotional you are…

                  I’ve definitely had more fights than you and I’ve definitely been to more shows than you’ll probably ever go to. I’ve probably been to Vegas more times than you and I live in the UK. I’m anything but an armchair fan. I consistently support the sport at all levels.

                  Nearly everybody disagrees with your nonsense daily on here, you’re a sad internet troll with nothing better going on in your life. A complete loser who’s closest thing to a human relationship is probably ******* off to your favourite p***star every night.

                  Keep believing Paul Williams was “unbeatable” you dumb f***.
                  You have never had an amateur fight in your life, please!

                  What does going to shows matter? I've seen thousands of more fights than you. Vegas is for suckers! You're a supporter =---> wow, great credentials!

                  Nearly everybody disagree with me, lets look at some like %'s then shall we?

                  20,200 posts with 3,444 likes = 17%

                  3,545 posts with 759 likes = 21%

                  Looks like you lost =---> again lmao!

                  I never said he was an unbeatbale fighter. Have another one, wow lol.

                  Looks like someone is getting emotional, truth hurts don't it haha. You're a drunk pretender.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by War Room

                    You have never had an amateur fight in your life, please!

                    What does going to shows matter? I've seen thousands of more fights than you. Vegas is for suckers! You're a supporter =---> wow, great credentials!

                    Nearly everybody disagree with me, lets look at some like %'s then shall we?

                    20,200 posts with 3,444 likes = 17%

                    3,545 posts with 759 likes = 21%

                    Looks like you lost =---> again lmao!

                    I never said he was an unbeatbale fighter. Have another one, wow lol.

                    Looks like someone is getting emotional, truth hurts don't it haha. You're a drunk pretender.
                    I’ve had over 50, including 5 senior contests. I genuinely go to more shows in a year than you’ve been to in your life. I guarantee you’ve never boxed and have probably been to a handful of shows in the cheap seats.


                    You’re so f***ing sad. Counting likes. You have even less of a life than I thought. Bonafide loser behaviour.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by billeau2

                      What exactly does it mean to "look unbeatable?" I think it means you see as near to perfect technique strung together... Ill grant you that you can argue for times when even on a great looking night a fighter makes an error... Ill grant you that. But ultimately the reason why Louis is considered so great (for example) is how perfect his punches looked. The reason "unbeatable" and "perfect" go together is because unless a fighter has other attributes that make them unbeatable... someone like Jones or Ali with their athletic ability (for example), what makes a fighter good, bad, elite, whatever is technique.

                      We can agree to disagree on Douglas. I think he looked really hard to beat that night and would have been a handful for any heavyweight that night.
                      I take your point man, I just think unbeatable is too strong of an adjective, especially in boxing a sport with so many intangibles. You can fifth a perfect fight against opponent A but that might not work at all against opponent B if you catch my drift.

                      Yeah I’m cool with agreeing to disagree, nice to actually have a discussion about a difference of opinion without somebody getting so emotionally attached like the OP.

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