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  • War Room
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    Is there an Unbeatable Mode?

    I do believe I am the first to talk about this, nobody in boxing history has referred to such a phenomenon.

    I've thought about this a lot over the years and my conclusion is always the same =---> certain boxers are certain times I believe are unbeatable =---> by anyone in history of that weight class.
    1. I believe that Tyson Fury was unbeatable the night he fought Vlad, nobody in history could have beaten Fury on that night.
    2. I believe that Paul Williams was unbeatable the night he fought Margarito, nobody in history could have beaten Williams on that night.
    I'm sure there are more instances, but these are the 2 that stick out in my mind since I conceived (thought wise) this remarkable phenomenon. I followed Williams since his first fight aired on FNF or whatever it was and he never fought like that in his entire career which sparked the thought to me.

    If Ali or Tyson fought the Fury that beat Vlad and I am big fans of Ali and Tyson, I don't think either of them win. I honestly believe he had tapped into something that made him unbeatable.

    This isn't about styles or skills, but more of an embodiement like Flow State. If you don't know what Flow State it, Google it!

    Do you think some fighters can enter an Unbeatable Mode at certain points of time?
    Last edited by War Room; 06-18-2022, 08:14 AM.
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    #2
    Originally posted by War Room
    I do believe I am the first to talk about this, nobody in boxing history has referred to such a phenomenon.

    I've thought about this a lot over the years and my conclusion is always the same =---> certain boxers are certain times I believe are unbeatable =---> by anyone in history of that weight class.
    1. I believe that Tyson Fury was unbeatable the night he fought Vlad, nobody in history could have beaten Fury on that night.
    2. I believe that Paul Williams was unbeatable the night he fought Margarito, nobody in history could have beaten Williams on that night.
    I'm sure there are more instances, but these are the 2 that stick out in my mind since I conceived (thought wise) this remarkable phenomenon. I followed Williams since his first fight aired on FNF or whatever it was and he never fought like that in his entire career which sparked the thought to me.

    If Ali or Tyson fought the Fury that beat Vlad and I am big fans of Ali and Tyson, I don't think either of them win. I honestly believe he had tapped into something that made him unbeatable.

    Do you think some fighters can enter an Unbeatable Mode at certain points of time?
    Not possible to judge that.

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    • Silence
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      #3
      Fury from Wilder 2. Peak of a human.

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        #4
        Originally posted by War Room
        I do believe I am the first to talk about this, nobody in boxing history has referred to such a phenomenon.

        I've thought about this a lot over the years and my conclusion is always the same =---> certain boxers are certain times I believe are unbeatable =---> by anyone in history of that weight class.
        1. I believe that Tyson Fury was unbeatable the night he fought Vlad, nobody in history could have beaten Fury on that night.
        2. I believe that Paul Williams was unbeatable the night he fought Margarito, nobody in history could have beaten Williams on that night.
        I'm sure there are more instances, but these are the 2 that stick out in my mind since I conceived (thought wise) this remarkable phenomenon. I followed Williams since his first fight aired on FNF or whatever it was and he never fought like that in his entire career which sparked the thought to me.

        If Ali or Tyson fought the Fury that beat Vlad and I am big fans of Ali and Tyson, I don't think either of them win. I honestly believe he had tapped into something that made him unbeatable.

        Do you think some fighters can enter an Unbeatable Mode at certain points of time?
        Lara was unbeatable the night he fought Paul Williams.

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        • Mr Giggles
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          #5
          I thought fury from the second wilder fight was better than the klitschko fight. In the klitschko fight he didn’t really do anything

          But floyd mayweather is unbeatable mode

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          • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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            No fighter is unbeatable. Anybody can lose a fight on any given night. That’s why the sport is so entertaining.

            I think the point you’re missing is certain styles can make fighters look better than they actually are. Margarito was a favourable style for Williams for example, however if Williams employed them same tactics against say Tommy Hearns he ends up face down on the mat like when he fought Martinez the second time.

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            • LeOoze
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              #7
              How did you watch the Williams vs Margarito fight and thought that Paul was unbeatable? He looked extremely vulnerable

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                Frazier was about as close to that as is possible for his first meeting with Ali. Certainly he was mentally unbeatable.

                Hagler when he fought Hearns maybe.

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                  Originally posted by War Room
                  I do believe I am the first to talk about this, nobody in boxing history has referred to such a phenomenon.

                  I've thought about this a lot over the years and my conclusion is always the same =---> certain boxers are certain times I believe are unbeatable =---> by anyone in history of that weight class.
                  1. I believe that Tyson Fury was unbeatable the night he fought Vlad, nobody in history could have beaten Fury on that night.
                  2. I believe that Paul Williams was unbeatable the night he fought Margarito, nobody in history could have beaten Williams on that night.
                  I'm sure there are more instances, but these are the 2 that stick out in my mind since I conceived (thought wise) this remarkable phenomenon. I followed Williams since his first fight aired on FNF or whatever it was and he never fought like that in his entire career which sparked the thought to me.

                  If Ali or Tyson fought the Fury that beat Vlad and I am big fans of Ali and Tyson, I don't think either of them win. I honestly believe he had tapped into something that made him unbeatable.

                  Do you think some fighters can enter an Unbeatable Mode at certain points of time?
                  Don't really get the question. Wlad didn't perform against Fury. Sure part of that was what Fury did but Wlad definitely didnt perform at all well. Fury's team was saying Wlad would never take the rematch - and as soon as he did - Fury retired. So clearly Fury didn't think there was an unbeatable mode he could tap into OR they knew that Wlad would perform better now he had nothing to lose. The 2 year PED ban Fury took soon after also agrees with this.

                  Fury still only has TWO title defences. Probably the lowest ever for someone so acclaimed. Don't believe in these unbeatable modes!
                  Last edited by Roberto Vasquez; 06-15-2022, 03:23 PM.

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                  • Cypocryphy
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by War Room
                    I do believe I am the first to talk about this, nobody in boxing history has referred to such a phenomenon.

                    I've thought about this a lot over the years and my conclusion is always the same =---> certain boxers are certain times I believe are unbeatable =---> by anyone in history of that weight class.
                    1. I believe that Tyson Fury was unbeatable the night he fought Vlad, nobody in history could have beaten Fury on that night.
                    2. I believe that Paul Williams was unbeatable the night he fought Margarito, nobody in history could have beaten Williams on that night.
                    I'm sure there are more instances, but these are the 2 that stick out in my mind since I conceived (thought wise) this remarkable phenomenon. I followed Williams since his first fight aired on FNF or whatever it was and he never fought like that in his entire career which sparked the thought to me.

                    If Ali or Tyson fought the Fury that beat Vlad and I am big fans of Ali and Tyson, I don't think either of them win. I honestly believe he had tapped into something that made him unbeatable.

                    Do you think some fighters can enter an Unbeatable Mode at certain points of time?
                    I think Tyson would have beat Fury. Too short. Too strong. Too fast. He would have felled Fury with a liver shot or something along those lines.

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