Is there an Unbeatable Mode?

[War Room]

It wasn't dominate. It was akin to a staring contest

One just ****** less than the other

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[BustedKnuckles]

No fighter is unbeatable. Anybody can lose a fight on any given night. That’s why the sport is so entertaining.

I think the point you’re missing is certain styles can make fighters look better than they actually are. Margarito was a favourable style for Williams for example, however if Williams employed them same tactics against say Tommy Hearns he ends up face down on the mat like when he fought Martinez the second time.

I agree with this. When I clicked on the title, I thought the thread was going to be whether this is an unbeatable style. So I started thinking about how many straight boxers have won over hitters lately. But then we know punchers take home the belt sometimes too. And boxer punchers have their standouts too.

So my thought was the same; like they say, styles make fights. It is very interesting how a fighter can look so next level over one guy, and then a same level guy as that opponent brings him down a notch. If it was too predictable, it would lose it's appeal. That's why bully fights don't entertain in the same way.

It's like a long math problem, and if you ignore order of operations, you can the run the same numbers and get different answers.

[YoungManRumble]

Every man has a weakness

[Lupara]

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Dude, it wasn't some masterclass performance. People got caught up in the moment as they do that after 11 years, Wlad had been beaten.

80 punches landed the entire fight. Both fought scared as hell

[War Room]

Dude, it wasn't some masterclass performance. People got caught up in the moment as they do that after 11 years, Wlad had been beaten.

80 punches landed the entire fight. Both fought scared as hell

It was a masterclass. 10-2 is soul domination. 11 years later? What are you talking about??

[buge]

Even though Lara is a great fighter, imo that was more of Williams not showing up imo. WIlliams had a lot of kinks in his armour, short amateur career, made a lot of mistakes on the inside. I don't think you're being serious and just taking a stab at Williams who should have lost that fight.

It was only coincidental that I mentioned Paul Williams when you also had him being unbeatable in a different fight. I just meant to show that with judges' whims (or payoffs), nobody is unbeatable - both the fights you mentioned went to decision.

[Tatabanya]

Interesting topic.

More clarity is perhaps needed between the concept of "unbeatable" and "untouchable" (at least on any given night, such as the aforementioned Fury vs Klitschko).

The way I see it, "unbeatable" is, above all, someone who wins by reacting to every attack of the opponent with something stronger, and who gets back up after falling to still assert his superiority after having been hit the hardest.

In other words: if your opponent comes back despite you hitting him with your best punches, and eventually wins the fight, you will probably perceive him as "unbeatable."

According to this interpretation of mine, an example of "unbeatable mode" may be Diego "Chico" Corrales in the first fight against Jose Luis Castillo. With that frame of mind, I doubt there was anyone that night who could have defeated Chico.

But there would be countless other examples, of course. In more recent times, Fernando Martinez when he took the title away from Jerwin Ancajas. In that occasion, Martinez was also in an "unbeatable" frame of mind.

[W1LL]

I do believe I am the first to talk about this, nobody in boxing history has referred to such a phenomenon.

Aren't you special? You should hide your autism better if you want to be taken seriously. You've been here 8 years, shut up.

[sicko]

Pretty Boy Floyd...

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Roy Jones Jr...
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Once PRIME Roy Drop both Hands and get that Rhythm going it is nothing you can do

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Again, there are two ways to take the concept of unbeatable. One is literally, the other, as a way to qualify perfection. I am choosing the second way. I can say "that jab looks as close to perfect as any jab i have ever seen" and that is a true statement. I cannot say that the statement "Because of the perfect jab thrown the fighter would be unbeatable" is a true statement.

Qualifying Douglas as looking unbeatable because of his technique is merely a way to describe the perfection of the technique. I know it seems like splitting hairs, but one can say a fighter appears unbeatable without meaning they would never lose... "appears" is the magic word here. And this is all we could ever know. Nobody can say a fighter would not lose because of their performance... But anyone can marvel that a fighter's performance makes them appear great. Douglas, as a big strong heavyweight who looked superb that evening against Tyson, and used footwork, jabs and combos expertly... appeared impossible to beat because of these qualities.

I don't think any fighter is unbeatable... I do think a great performance from a fighter can make the fighter appear closer to perfection. Perfection is another quality a fighter can come closer to and deviate from... BUT there is no perfect fighter either RJJ, it is a metric, an approximation and nothing else.

I don’t think he looked anywhere near impossible to beat though. I think several HW’s would have beaten Douglas that night.