Canelo cherrypicking Bivol

[ramses07]

Lol, what an excuse.

Canelo was not that good as you wanted to believe and Bivol was better as you wanted to believe.

That is how it is.

I don’t think you read my entire post

I specifically said I don’t necessarily think a more prepared Canelo would change anything

I however noticed that Canelo just gave up,

in other fights, shoot even against Mayweather I saw Canelo try way more and different things

This fight, he just did the same thing over and over, and way more tired than any other fight,


I’ll say this much, if he weren’t Canelo (in terms of star power) Id say Bivol shouldn’t grant him the rematch

[ramses07]

That could be the case but also Lara and Canelo were similar in almost all physical attributes and that was only Canelo’s 2nd weight class.

So, yeah. Lara is 3 weight classes below now. Size matters in boxing. Height, reach, natural weight. All of that has to be taken into consideration.

A lot of fans point to things like Bivol’s jab, footwork, etc. But what I saw was a good-sized Light-Heavyweight basically blocking everything Canelo threw, and not getting hurt by anything. Canelo couldn’t bully Bivol because Bivol is bigger than what he’s used to fighting. Didn’t matter if he was moving or stationary.

It’s like the prospect of GGG vs Ward at 168. Yes, Ward is more skilled than GGG (way more imo), and GGG was able to bully a lot of fighters at 160 with his power. But I doubt that would have been the case at 168 vs Ward. It would not have mattered if GGG and Ward both weighed 180lbs on fight night either. Ward was bigger, plain and simple. GGG would have been a MW coming up to SMW. He would have been the naturally smaller fighter. He could have even come in at 180lbs for some reason, and Ward rehydrates to 176-177. That still would not have made GGG the bigger fighter. Technically yeah, but realistically no.

Everyone is fixated on the unusually flabby Canelo coming in at 180lbs on fight night vs Bivol who says he weighed around 183lbs and that supposedly made them the same size. Even though Canelo is 5’7” and came from 154.

Why can’t more people respond like you?

everybody gets so mad when we don’t agree on something lol

[War Room]

Let’s be honest here…You have to be an amazing fighter to come up from 154 where you win your first championship, climb to 160, 168, and finally 175 and “cherrypick” Dmitry Bivol.

Not if you pick cherries the entire way. It's people like you they're targetting =---> the easily fooled.

Is Rocky Fielding a cherry? He got his smw strap against him =--->

Was Kovalev shot and a cherry for the lhw belt? =--->

Beating an overstuffed jww that got ran out of 147 for a vacant with Cotto a cherry, or not a cherry? The is indubitably the question! =--->

Imagine if more fighters cherrypicked like Canelo? That’s pretty ambitious.

That would actually destroy the importance of belts. Ambitious? I prefer egregious.

No one in their right mind would accuse any other fighter from 154 to 175 of cherrypicking Bivol.

Go tell that to Roy Jones Jr who said it was a cherry-pick gone wrong and let's see what happens. It's right in the beginning of the video, you don't have to wait long.

Who am I going to believe, -Kev- the security guard or Roy Jones Jr arguably the most talented and gifted boxer in Earth's history? Let me think about this for a minute, hmm =---> decisions decisions, I just can't seem to choose!!

What do you think TernceBudCharlo do we go with Roy Jones Junior the goat or Kevin the prison security guard?

Shame on that confident cherrypicker, picking on top 2 Light Heavyweights like Kovalev and Bivol.

Confident? How is it confident cherry-picking a shot fighter/quitter who got knocked out in 2017, 2018, almost out in 2019 by a guy that doesn't even spar no less (LMAO), then force him into your fight 70 days later? Andrade got Canelo 40M to fight, but Clenny McButerol took 35M instead for the cherry lmao!

Too much reading? Try some moving pictures.

[eco1]

Basically. Canelo is held to high standards by his critics. When you start of your career fighting Mayweather, Lara, Cotto, GGG, Jacobs, Trout in your 20s…you are sort of setting yourself up for failure because fans are used to seeing you at the highest level of boxing, fighting the very best, most proven fighters of each weight class. Struggle or not, he fought the best and that’s what is expected of him.

Even though Bivol is a top 2 LHW, which makes him one of the two best at LHW, the fact that Canelo thought he could beat him makes it a cherrypick,

That expectation will lead to critics claiming crazy stuff like that. Canelo cherrypicking Bivol. Of course you will have nut jobs like that. He fought the best fighter of his era at 23. He fought the most avoided fighters at 154-160, Lara and GGG when every other champions were avoiding them. His “lower tier” wins are Plant, Saunders and Kovalev. With a track record like that, you’re going to have nutjobs like terencebudcharlo making crazy ass claims.

And lost to both Lara a GGG.

[eco1]

That could be the case but also Lara and Canelo were similar in almost all physical attributes and that was only Canelo’s 2nd weight class.

So, yeah. Lara is 3 weight classes below now. Size matters in boxing. Height, reach, natural weight. All of that has to be taken into consideration.

A lot of fans point to things like Bivol’s jab, footwork, etc. But what I saw was a good-sized Light-Heavyweight basically blocking everything Canelo threw, and not getting hurt by anything. Canelo couldn’t bully Bivol because Bivol is bigger than what he’s used to fighting. Didn’t matter if he was moving or stationary.

It’s like the prospect of GGG vs Ward at 168. Yes, Ward is more skilled than GGG (way more imo), and GGG was able to bully a lot of fighters at 160 with his power. But I doubt that would have been the case at 168 vs Ward. It would not have mattered if GGG and Ward both weighed 180lbs on fight night either. Ward was bigger, plain and simple. GGG would have been a MW coming up to SMW. He would have been the naturally smaller fighter. He could have even come in at 180lbs for some reason, and Ward rehydrates to 176-177. That still would not have made GGG the bigger fighter. Technically yeah, but realistically no.

Everyone is fixated on the unusually flabby Canelo coming in at 180lbs on fight night vs Bivol who says he weighed around 183lbs and that supposedly made them the same size. Even though Canelo is 5’7” and came from 154.

it is not us who brought this discussion, it is all Clenelo fans who said easy fight, then we will destroy Betervieb (a bum) and then Usyk, easy work.

Bunch of idiots who DKSAB.

Clenelo with all the "CVS vitamins" and without the clauses and judges on his side is still a B+ fighter and a cherrypicker.

[BodyBagz]

You canelo fans have all these dirty tricks to hype up his overrated resume. Kovalev was no top LHW, and if he was, he fought canelo in a a severely weakened condition with a rehydration clause and no rest after a brutal beatdown from yards.

Bud doesn't have a resume worth mentioning

But that hasn't stopped people from putting him on the p4p list.

Bud, FFOTD



Fantasy Fighter Of The Decade.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Canelo had dangerous opponents with perfect credentials he could have fought - Benavidez, Beterbiev, Ramirez, GGG, even Charlo.

Ok, in what universe is Charlo a dangerous fight for Canelo?

Charlo can`t break an egg even at 160.

Do you think Charlo would survive 12 rounds fighting Bivol?

[BigDramaShow!]

Let’s be honest here…You have to be an amazing fighter to come up from 154 where you win your first championship, climb to 160, 168, and finally 175 and “cherrypick” Dmitry Bivol.

Imagine if more fighters cherrypicked like Canelo? That’s pretty ambitious.

No one else from 154 to 175 would be accused of cherrypicking Dmitry Bivol. Even if they admit that they thought they could beat him over Beterbiev. No one in their right mind would accuse any other fighter from 154 to 175 of cherrypicking Bivol.

Canelo has very high standards of cherrypicking.

Usyk thought he could beat AJ, he was adamant about fighting him as soon as he came up to HW and got a couple of fights. Usyk cherrypicked AJ.

I have heard of fighters “cherrypicking” fighters below them, like Mayweather-JMM, DLH-Pacquiao. But wow, to cherrypick a top 2 undefeated fighter who campaigns at the weight class above yours, Canelo is has to be an amazing fighter.

I mean Beterbiev can come out and say, right now, that he is fighting Smith Jr because he thinks he can beat him. And nobody would care that a top 3 fighter thinks he can cherrypick a top 3 fighter of his weight class. Everyone is happy and excited about the fight next Saturday (I know I am).

Nobody cared that Usyk was saying he can beat AJ, it wasn’t a cherrypick.

But wow man, Canelo thought he could beat Bivol, he picked Bivol because he thought he could beat him. Shame on that confident cherrypicker, picking on top 2 Light Heavyweights like Kovalev and Bivol. And the audacity for Canelo to tell Hearn that he’s interested in Artur Beterbiev. Another cherrypick.

Boxers should grow some balls and fight fighters they think they can’t beat. Canelo should call out Tyson Fury after GGG III and Bivol II, win or lose. For god’s sake, fight someone you know you can’t beat Canelo. You boxing disgrace.

Canelo ducked Andrade, Charlo and Benavidez. Bivol was a cherrypick gone wrong.

[BigDramaShow!]

Ok, in what universe is Charlo a dangerous fight for Canelo?

Charlo can`t break an egg even at 160.

Do you think Charlo would survive 12 rounds fighting Bivol?

Charlo knocks you and Canelo out at the same night. There's a reason Canelo avoided Jermall his whole career. They were both champs at 154. What did Canelo do? Fight bums like Kirkland and Angulo that's what!

[BodyBagz]

Prime GGG -
Simon, Ishida, Ouma, Stevens, Tapia, Nunez, Proska, Rosado, Adama............

Chasing doodoo

Give this MFer his own wing in the HOF