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[MASTER THREAD] Hearn Admits They Cherry-Picked Bivol

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  • #21
    Originally posted by War Room View Post

    It's not ******. Hearn picked Bivol because he looked weak in his last 2 fights. That is called cherry-picking. The same reason they turned down Andrade for 40M and took 35M for a broke down Kovaquit who was almost knocked out by a no sparring Yarde in the fight before, put Kova on short notice, and Kova had just got sparked by nobody Eleider Alvarez before Yarde. they cherry-picked him instead of taking a fight against an undefeated fighter who's slick.

    Go tell RJJ, Tarver, and Malignaggo they're ****** for saying it wasn't a cherry pick and they'll have security remove you by the scruff.

    Its what they all do, they pick guys they feel they can beat, and anyone they feel they can beat looks weak in their eyes, its is a ****** thread because all the top guys do it.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

      Its what they all do, they pick guys they feel they can beat, and anyone they feel they can beat looks weak in their eyes, its is a ****** thread because all the top guys do it.
      When Mosley was beating everyone up, Roach is on film talking about a phone call he had with Shane who was looking for a Manny fight, Freddie said No Shane you're too good. Once they saw Shane decline, they fought him. Fighting someone when they're at their low point is cherry-picking.

      Does Spence and Crawford think the other guy is at their weakest?

      Did Fury think Wilder was at his weakest? He was sparking everyone out.

      Hearn said he didn't think Bivol could beat Canelo so they picked him ---> and that's cherry-picking. The before and the day after Hearn can be heard saying Canelo wants to fight the best, interested in making history, and wants to challenge himself. How is picking a guy they think can't win fighting the best, making history, or challenging oneself?
      • Picking a guy that can't win is making history?
      • Picking a guy that can't win is fighting the best?
      • Picking a guy that can't win is challenging yourself?
      You make no sense ---> this thread isn't ******, this thread is an exposé on fraudulent behavior.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by War Room View Post

        When Mosley was beating everyone up, Roach is on film talking about a phone call he had with Shane who was looking for a Manny fight, Freddie said No Shane you're too good. Once they saw Shane decline, they fought him. Fighting someone when they're at their low point is cherry-picking.

        Does Spence and Crawford think the other guy is at their weakest?

        Did Fury think Wilder was at his weakest? He was sparking everyone out.

        Hearn said he didn't think Bivol could beat Canelo so they picked him ---> and that's cherry-picking. The before and the day after Hearn can be heard saying Canelo wants to fight the best, interested in making history, and wants to challenge himself. How is picking a guy they think can't win fighting the best, making history, or challenging oneself?
        • Picking a guy that can't win is making history?
        • Picking a guy that can't win is fighting the best?
        • Picking a guy that can't win is challenging yourself?
        You make no sense ---> this thread isn't ******, this thread is an exposé on fraudulent behavior.
        Youre trying too hard to hate on one guy for what they all do, its a ****** thread no matter how much you try to embellish it, did Hearn say we didn't think Bivol could beat him , and then you added THATS WHY WE PICKED HIM, or he actually said that which is really the unsaid pretense behind 90% of opponents anyway.

        Its simple, a marquee fighter looking for an opponent will balance risk vs reward with the prime idea to pick somebody they can beat, its not rocket science its high stake business and management and all the top guys DO IT.
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        • #24
          Originally posted by War Room View Post

          I typed what he said verbatim with close captions on guy lmao!







          Those are the exact words. You lost, bend the knee and admit defeat like a man!
          I quoted him verbatim, you only quoted part of what he said to alter the meaning and mislead people.

          Here it is again - the whole sentence, including the bolded part that you deliberately left out:

          "There was nothing in his last 2 fights that showed he could do that, but we knew how good he was"

          You also said that Hearn literally told Bivol he was a cherry pick. That isn't true. Hearn never told Bivol he was a cherry pick. You are putting your own words into his mouth.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

            Youre trying too hard to hate on one guy for what they all do, its a ****** thread no matter how much you try to embellish it, did Hearn say we didn't think Bivol could beat him , and then you added THATS WHY WE PICKED HIM, or he actually said that which is really the unsaid pretense behind 90% of opponents anyway.

            Its simple, a marquee fighter looking for an opponent will balance risk vs reward with the prime idea to pick somebody they can beat, its not rocket science its high stake business and management and all the top guys DO IT.
            True. Canelo and Reynoso obviously thought they could beat Bivol or they wouldn't have wanted to move up and fight him.

            It turned out they were wrong. There are two ways of explaning that. Either Bivol is better than they thought he was or Canelo isn't as good. Hearn promotes both guys, so which explanation is he going to run with?

            It's not rocket science, lol.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Madison boxing View Post
              i just think team canelo thought it was a no risk fight, obviously bivols not some bum but i dont think it entered their heads for one second that he could lose especially given they had paid the 3 judges to give him the opening 4 rounds. canelo hasnt fought any good prime fighters since the 154lb days so i think people (including myself!) thought he was better than what he was, really hes shown no improvements whatsoever still that same plodder who mayweather fought, if the going gets tough then he has absolutely no ideas, ring IQ is just awful. im not convinced bivols that special i think what sets him apart from the recent trash that canelo has fought is that he didnt get caught up in the whole 'OMG im fighting canelo' bull****. some of those guys canelo fought before hand at 168 were beaten before the first bell, no real belief or intention to win, some of them even seem pleased with how they did saying they thought they proved they were elite by nicking a few rounds off of him. bivol showed what he is, some basic fighter, wow that fight must have been a real disappointment for those who were watching him for the first time, tuning into the see 'the great canelo' the p4p number 1 who beats heavyweights in sparring and who could fight usyk at cruiserweight. all that hype over nothing, again i cant say anything i thought it would take a better fighter than bivol to expose him, maybe a charlo/andrade type fighter or benavidez but that euro high guard with a basic 1-2 and a bit of movement was enough to make canelo look like a ****ing bum. will see how he looks in his next fight but i think hes a broken man now, maybe time to hand up the gloves at the end of the year cause he just cant do it against a young prime champion, its open season on him now unless he goes back to fighting washed up old fighters then hes going to find himself with plenty more losses, not worth his promoters paying off the judges any more they can find someone better to put their money behind, hes done
              You are severely underestimating Bivol if you think there is nothing to him but a high guard and a basic 1-2.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by kafkod View Post

                True. Canelo and Reynoso obviously thought they could beat Bivol or they wouldn't have wanted to move up and fight him.

                It turned out they were wrong. There are two ways of explaning that. Either Bivol is better than they thought he was or Canelo isn't as good. Hearn promotes both guys, so which explanation is he going to run with?

                It's not rocket science, lol.
                Canelo has manufactured career. In reality dude lost to GGG and got schooled by Floyd and Bivol.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                  Youre trying too hard to hate on one guy for what they all do, its a ****** thread no matter how much you try to embellish it, did Hearn say we didn't think Bivol could beat him , and then you added THATS WHY WE PICKED HIM, or he actually said that which is really the unsaid pretense behind 90% of opponents anyway.

                  Its simple, a marquee fighter looking for an opponent will balance risk vs reward with the prime idea to pick somebody they can beat, its not rocket science its high stake business and management and all the top guys DO IT.
                  They all don't do it. Hearn did say to Mannix he didn't think he could beat him.

                  Originally posted by Chris Mannix
                  Did you think Dmitry Bivol had this type of performance in him?
                  Originally posted by Eddie Hearn
                  Honestly, probably not.
                  People like you that support cherry-picking are cancer to boxing.

                  Originally posted by kafkod View Post

                  I quoted him verbatim, you only quoted part of what he said to alter the meaning and mislead people.

                  Here it is again - the whole sentence, including the bolded part that you deliberately left out:

                  "There was nothing in his last 2 fights that showed he could do that, but we knew how good he was"

                  You also said that Hearn literally told Bivol he was a cherry pick. That isn't true. Hearn never told Bivol he was a cherry pick. You are putting your own words into his mouth.
                  I did too, but but but but but don't mean shit. You can't go back from But there was nothing in your last 2 fights, in his last 2 fights, there's nothing that shows he could do that.

                  Originally posted by Chris Mannix
                  Did you think Dmitry Bivol had this type of performance in him?
                  Originally posted by Eddie Hearn
                  Honestly, probably not.

                  You know you look off the back of there’s a lot of fighters Chris that have come off performances you know in the pandemic, through the pandemic, they looked a little bit flat. You look at Dmitry Bivol you know against Craig Richards and before that against Castillo, those performances didn’t tell you that, that form would beat Canelo Alvarez
                  You won't touch this because it's a conclusive statements in bold.

                  You're a cheerleader for a steroid cheat cherry-picker, end of story.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                    This happens in all big fights, rarely does a Champ go in thinking they not going to win, and rarely does anyone pick an opponent they think they cannot beat.

                    ****** thread about what happens all the time in boxing.
                    That was my point but if people want to call it a cherry pick so be it, doesn't change anything.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by War Room View Post

                      They all don't do it. Hearn did say to Mannix he didn't think he could beat him.





                      People like you that support cherry-picking are cancer to boxing.



                      I did too, but but but but but don't mean shit. You can't go back from But there was nothing in your last 2 fights, in his last 2 fights, there's nothing that shows he could do that.





                      You won't touch this because it's a conclusive statements in bold.

                      You're a cheerleader for a steroid cheat cherry-picker, end of story.
                      So it was you that added Thats why we picked him, that's called trying to polish a turd and you failed lol, the thread is a turd.

                      You're becoming desperate and name-calling wont cut it for you, Im starting to think you're about 16.

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