Loma outboxes these two…

[Haka]

Loma was hesitant because he was trying to get Lopez's timing. He knew he has one-punch KO power, so he was wary of that. It took him until the end of the second round, and if you remember, he landed the harder, cleaner punches in that round at the end. That's when he noticed that the TUE he got for his arm wasn't working that well and that he felt it give. Then he didn't really throw that much until the six round. So there were a lot of things going on in that fight that caused a delay. Then after that, he turned it up, and Loma outlanded Lopez from then all the way to the 12th round. He landed more punches in the 12th round than Lopez. So that Loma vs Lopez fight was a one off. Lopez caught Loma at the right time. Lighting in a bottle. Lopez knew it too, which is why he avoided the rematch at all cost. He decided to fight Kambosos for much less than what he would have got for Loma. Top Rank wanted to do a PPV with Loma and Lopez II. So that should tell you everything. Lopez knew what was up.

The problem with Haney is that he's much bigger than Loma, so he's going to be a ***** to deal with when he hugs. Everyone says Haney's footwork and this and that, but Haney's footwork is not that great. It really isn't. If Diaz could cut the ring off and collapse the pocket, what the hell does everyone think Loma is going to do? lol Seriously.

The only thing that Loma has to worry about is Haney's jab, which is his main weapon. Haney relies on his jab to score enough points to win fights. That's how heavily he relies on it. So Loma will have to disable that jab. He can do that. Provided Loma hasn't slowed down that much, and we have the same Loma that we saw in his last two fights, I don't think Haney is going to be able to do very much. It will be a slow, methodical beat down.

True, and if you already got 12 rounds against the Matrix then he has the blueprint downloaded to exploit you already.

[Cypocryphy]

This post is disgraceful. You’re not giving Teo any credit for beating Loma, making excuses after excuse for Teo beating him.

If that isn’t bad enough, you’re already making excuses should Haney beat him.

When Loma loses, guys like you give him every excuse for coming up short and then preemptively make excuses for him should he lose.

You defended Loma for dropping the belt. You posted he arguably beat Teo when he clearly lost. You blame Teo when Loma didn’t have a rematch clause. You picked Kambosos would win because you want Loma to have the easiest pathway possible to being an undisputed champ. When that failed, you labeled Haney a cheater and criticized him when he easily beat Kambosos. Disgraceful.

It’s clear you sense Haney might just beat Loma easier than Teo did. You’re doing everything you can to denigrate his resume, talent and skill set before that happens. Just because you want Loma to be the undisputed LW champ.

Utterly pathetic.

Try writing a post where you don't cry when writing it. It comes off like a pathetic sob story. I've never seen so much whining and complaining in one post. What excuses am I making should Haney beat him (which he won't). What excuses?

I picked Kambosos to win not because I thought he was the better boxer but because I thought whatever swing rounds there were, they would have gone to Kambosos. It was more about the location of the fight and the conditions of the fight. I never thought Kambosos was better than Haney. But at the same time, I didn't expect Kambosos to be one-dimensional and **** the bed. I didn't expect that either.

I laid out the game plans for both fighters, and you had one guy effect his game plan (Haney) and another guy who couldn't (Kambosos). I'm not surprised that Haney won or that he won as he did. Haney hugged when Gamboa got inside. Haney hugged when Linares hurt him and Haney hugged all throughout the Kambosos fight. That's how Haney fights. No surprise. I was only surprised that the referee let him do it all throughout the fight, without a warning.

You simply cannot handle the truth is what it comes down to

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[The Big Dunn]

Try writing a post where you don't cry when writing it. It comes off like a pathetic sob story. I've never seen so much whining and complaining in one post. What excuses am I making should Haney beat him (which he won't). What excuses?

I picked Kambosos to win not because I thought he was the better boxer but because I thought whatever swing rounds there were, they would have gone to Kambosos. It was more about the location of the fight and the conditions of the fight. I never thought Kambosos was better than Haney. But at the same time, I didn't expect Kambosos to be one-dimensional and **** the bed. I didn't expect that either.

I laid out the game plans for both fighters, and you had one guy effect his game plan (Haney) and another guy who couldn't (Kambosos). I'm not surprised that Haney won or that he won as he did. Haney hugged when Gamboa got inside. Haney hugged when Linares hurt him and Haney hugged all throughout the Kambosos fight. That's how Haney fights. No surprise. I was only surprised that the referee let him do it all throughout the fight, without a warning.

You simply cannot handle the truth is what it comes down to

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You posted about hugging and Loma “slowing down”. Those are premature excuses. Stop that. If he loses it’s because Haney is better.

I told you why imo you picked Kambosos. If you saw him fight other than Teo, you’d have seen he is one dimensional. If not that, extend Teo the same benefit for losing you extended to Loma when he lost.

You picked wrong then labeled Haney a cheater just because he won easily. You need to stop.

As I posted before in this exchange- every fighter holds/clinches/hugs at some point. Every ex pro doing color suggests holding/hugging/clinching when in trouble.

there is really not an issue other than fans of losers complaining.

What truth have you posted that I can’t handle?

You’re worried he dominates Loma. The premature excuses and meme give it away.

I know why- should Haney win, then it’s clear why Loma avoided him and asked for the franchise title, then lied to Fat Dan about not knowing.

[brettWall]

Loma got answer to Haney's ducking below the belt. Loma got this pivoting style maneuvering his body on the side of his opponent. He'll quickly catch Haney's head before it even reaches its destination.

[brettWall]

I do think Haney's style is tailor made for Lomachenko. Styles make fights.

[Cypocryphy]

You posted about hugging and Loma “slowing down”. Those are premature excuses. Stop that. If he loses it’s because Haney is better.

I told you why imo you picked Kambosos. If you saw him fight other than Teo, you’d have seen he is one dimensional. If not that, extend Teo the same benefit for losing you extended to Loma when he lost.

You picked wrong then labeled Haney a cheater just because he won easily. You need to stop.

As I posted before in this exchange- every fighter holds/clinches/hugs at some point. Every ex pro doing color suggests holding/hugging/clinching when in trouble.

there is really not an issue other than fans of losers complaining.

What truth have you posted that I can’t handle?

You’re worried he dominates Loma. The premature excuses and meme give it away.

I know why- should Haney win, then it’s clear why Loma avoided him and asked for the franchise title, then lied to Fat Dan about not knowing.

When Loma beats Haney what are you going to say? Haney has every physical advantage. He's bigger, longer reach and he's younger. So I'll be very curious to see what you say then.

And hugging is cheating. How many times do we have to go over this. It's been considered illegal since the 19th Century.

Rule 2—No wrestling or hugging allowed. (Marquees of Queensbury 1865)

Let's look in Nevada and see what they say:

NAC 467.675  Acts constituting fouls in boxing. (NRS 467.030)  The following acts constitute fouls in boxing:

1.  Hitting an opponent below the navel or behind the ear.

2.  Hitting an opponent who is knocked down or taking a knee, or is getting up after being knocked down or taking a knee.

3.  Holding an opponent with one hand and hitting with the other.

4.  Holding or deliberately maintaining a clinch.

"Holding is when a fighter stops and uses both hands to stop the other boxer’s ability to punch for no apparent reason" – Jack Reiss

"Clinching is when you use it as a means to navigate the ring and change position" – Jack Reiss

Reiss says that if a referee breaks the fighters too soon, it can change the course of a fight—particularly when you have a taller, longer fighter facing a shorter boxer who has to work his way inside to be effective.

“If the shorter fighter finally works his way inside, and the ref doesn’t understand infighting and breaks them…he just robbed the shorter fighter of the real estate he paid for.” – Jack Reiss

As you can see, Haney cheated. And like I said, you can't handle the truth

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[The Big Dunn]

When Loma beats Haney what are you going to say? Haney has every physical advantage. He's bigger, longer reach and he's younger. So I'll be very curious to see what you say then.

And hugging is cheating. How many times do we have to go over this. It's been considered illegal since the 19th Century.

Rule 2—No wrestling or hugging allowed. (Marquees of Queensbury 1865)

Let's look in Nevada and see what they say:

NAC 467.675  Acts constituting fouls in boxing. (NRS 467.030)  The following acts constitute fouls in boxing:

1.  Hitting an opponent below the navel or behind the ear.

2.  Hitting an opponent who is knocked down or taking a knee, or is getting up after being knocked down or taking a knee.

3.  Holding an opponent with one hand and hitting with the other.

4.  Holding or deliberately maintaining a clinch.

"Holding is when a fighter stops and uses both hands to stop the other boxer’s ability to punch for no apparent reason" – Jack Reiss

"Clinching is when you use it as a means to navigate the ring and change position" – Jack Reiss

Reiss says that if a referee breaks the fighters too soon, it can change the course of a fight—particularly when you have a taller, longer fighter facing a shorter boxer who has to work his way inside to be effective.

“If the shorter fighter finally works his way inside, and the ref doesn’t understand infighting and breaks them…he just robbed the shorter fighter of the real estate he paid for.” – Jack Reiss

As you can see, Haney cheated. And like I said, you can't handle the truth

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If that happens I will do what I always do- post I was wrong and give Loma credit. I don’t make excuses like you have.

There is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. Every fight has holding and clinching. I understand your points but The ref determines if it’s excessive, not a partisan fan that is in his feelings because the guy he picked lost.

Your claim of Haney cheating is like getting a ticket for going 56 in a 55. Only a f@gg0t, corrupt cop gives a ticket in that instance.

[Cypocryphy]

If that happens I will do what I always do- post I was wrong and give Loma credit. I don’t make excuses like you have.

There is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. Every fight has holding and clinching. I understand your points but The ref determines if it’s excessive, not a partisan fan that is in his feelings because the guy he picked lost.

Your claim of Haney cheating is like getting a ticket for going 56 in a 55. Only a ***g0t cop or a corrupt town gives a ticket in that instance.

Your argument is in favor of my argument. If we are going by the spirit of the law, which is to allow the fight to flow and also to not give a taller fighter an advantage over a smaller fighter who has to collapse the pocket, then the spirit of the law is to prohibit holding.

It's as simple as that. The only way Haney can beat Tank and Loma is to hug them to death. It's the ONLY way. Just like what he did to Gamboa and Kambosos. When you have a smaller fighter, such as Loma and Tank, then you have to prohibit hugging as a strategy to prevent the smaller fighter from being able to fight. That is the spirit of the law. The spirit of the law is to encourage boxing, not hugging. You know this, so don't argue otherwise. You know damn well it's ludicrous. I've laid it out for you in a very clear and concise way.

The referee was terrible. The referee gave no warning to Haney who was actually wrapping his arms around Kambosos' body, not his arms. "Clinching" is when you have your arms around the other opponents arms. Clinching usually turns into 'tying up," which is when the arms are exclusively around the other opponents arms. "Holding" is when you have your arms or an arm around the opponents body, and like Reiss said, is used to prevent the other boxer's ability to punch.

[The Big Dunn]

Your argument is in favor of my argument. If we are going by the spirit of the law, which is to allow the fight to flow and also to not give a taller fighter an advantage over a smaller fighter who has to collapse the pocket, then the spirit of the law is to prohibit holding.

It's as simple as that. The only way Haney can beat Tank and Loma is to hug them to death. It's the ONLY way. Just like what he did to Gamboa and Kambosos. When you have a smaller fighter, such as Loma and Tank, then you have to prohibit hugging as a strategy to prevent the smaller fighter from being able to fight. That is the spirit of the law. The spirit of the law is to encourage boxing, not hugging. You know this, so don't argue otherwise. You know damn well it's ludicrous. I've laid it out for you in a very clear and concise way.

The referee was terrible. The referee gave no warning to Haney who was actually wrapping his arms around Kambosos' body, not his arms. "Clinching" is when you have your arms around the other opponents arms. Clinching usually turns into 'tying up," which is when the arms are exclusively around the other opponents arms. "Holding" is when you have your arms or an arm around the opponents body, and like Reiss said, is used to prevent the other boxer's ability to punch.

The ref did that. He broke them up. Ref didn’t deduct any points because it wasn’t as egregious as you suggest. You and those that don’t like Haney are just fixated on that because it’s a convenient excuse.

He jabbed and moved. That is what he will do against Loma and Tank. If there is excessive holding that warrants points deduction, I am sure the ref will deduct. Let’s not act like Haney is the cash cow.

Kambosos wasn’t punching. Not because he was held but because he was content to lose and exercise his rematch.

[Lomadeaux]

Y’all are crazy. If Loma can’t outbox Teo, he isn’t out boxing Haney.

You're right, he didn't outbox him. He beat him up. Proving you know **** about boxing if you think Haney is outboxing Loma.