Loma outboxes these two…

[The Big Dunn]

You're right, he didn't outbox him. He beat him up. Proving you know **** about boxing if you think Haney is outboxing Loma.

Lmfao. He lost rounds 1-7. He won 4 rounds, 8-11. He was so spent after that he clearly lost the 12th and was almost dropped.

The majority of people that watched that fight posted similar opinion that Teo outboxed him. We all know why you’re pretending that didn’t happen.

If Haney wins, don’t cowardly hide and make excuses like you did when Teo beat him. Show up.

[Cypocryphy]

The ref did that. He broke them up. Ref didn’t deduct any points because it wasn’t as egregious as you suggest. You and those that don’t like Haney are just fixated on that because it’s a convenient excuse.

He jabbed and moved. That is what he will do against Loma and Tank. If there is excessive holding that warrants points deduction, I am sure the ref will deduct. Let’s not act like Haney is the cash cow.

Kambosos wasn’t punching. Not because he was held but because he was content to lose and exercise his rematch.

Haney's jab and move is amazing. No doubt. Had he done that all fight, then I wouldn't have anything to say but praise. But he didn't. Half of the fight was hugging. And technically it's not Haney's fault because the referee was incompetent. One of the worst referees I have ever seen. As I have been saying, had the referee let them fight out of it, then that would have been great. But if the referee is going to break it up as soon as it happens, then he's screwing over Kambosos, as I have been saying and as Jack Reiss stated. Haney should give part of his purse to the referee.

I'm almost curious to see what Haney and Kambosos II would look like with a competent referee. Almost! I still want to see Haney vs Loma or Haney vs Tank. But as I have been saying, neither Loma nor Tank have much of a chance if Haney is allowed to relentlessly hold throughout the fight. And that's especially true if the referee is going to be break them up immediately and put Tank or Loma back on the outside after working their way into mid-range or inside.

[Cypocryphy]

Lmfao. He lost rounds 1-7. He won 4 rounds, 8-11. He was so spent after that he clearly lost the 12th and was almost dropped.

The majority of people that watched that fight posted similar opinion that Teo outboxed him. We all know why you’re pretending that didn’t happen.

If Haney wins, don’t cowardly hide and make excuses like you did when Teo beat him. Show up.

Loma won rounds two, seven, eight, nine, ten and eleven. Round six and round 12 were swing rounds. Also, Loma was not almost stopped. Lopez was almost stopped in the eleventh round. If Loma were hurt, then why did he keep coming forward and push Teofimo back up onto the ropes? lol If you're hurt, you start backing up and moving around the ring to get time. Or you do what Haney does and hug. Instead, Loma started kicking Lopez's ass after that punch.

I swear, the narrative some people push is absurd.

[The Big Dunn]

Haney's jab and move is amazing. No doubt. Had he done that all fight, then I wouldn't have anything to say but praise. But he didn't. Half of the fight was hugging. And technically it's not Haney's fault because the referee was incompetent. One of the worst referees I have ever seen. As I have been saying, had the referee let them fight out of it, then that would have been great. But if the referee is going to break it up as soon as it happens, then he's screwing over Kambosos, as I have been saying and as Jack Reiss stated. Haney should give part of his purse to the referee.

I'm almost curious to see what Haney and Kambosos II would look like with a competent referee. Almost! I still want to see Haney vs Loma or Haney vs Tank. But as I have been saying, neither Loma nor Tank have much of a chance if Haney is allowed to relentlessly hold throughout the fight. And that's especially true if the referee is going to be break them up immediately and put Tank or Loma back on the outside after working their way into mid-range or inside.

We disagree. Ref wasn’t that bad. You’re over exaggerating.

If Kambosos tries to win like a man, Haney will ko or stop him. If Kambosos does what he did in the 1st fight, it will be another UD.

What you really mean is Haney can use his speed, length and athleticism to fight at a distance, which both Loma and Tank have had some difficulty with even when they win.

You don’t like Haney so you are posting this to make excuses should they lose to him.

[The Big Dunn]

Loma won rounds two, seven, eight, nine, ten and eleven. Round six and round 12 were swing rounds. Also, Loma was not almost stopped. Lopez was almost stopped in the eleventh round. If Loma were hurt, then why did he keep coming forward and push Teofimo back up onto the ropes? lol If you're hurt, you start backing up and moving around the ring to get time. Or you do what Haney does and hug. Instead, Loma started kicking Lopez's ass after that punch.

I swear, the narrative some people push is absurd.

Stop dude. He didn’t win 2 or 7. 6 and 12 were not swing rounds. The majority of people scoring in the rbr thread agreed.

You picked Loma to win so you’re going out of your way to give him rounds he didn’t earn. That is disgraceful.

I posted he was almost down, not stopped. Yes, Lopez was hurt in the 11th, no question.

He was hurt. But he was desperate. He knew he was down 7-4 and needed a ko to win.

Like I posted to you a few days ago he gets credit for trying to win, unlike Kambosos and Canelo who were content to lose because they had rematch clauses.

Look dude you lose any and all credibility posting Loma won. He lost. You need to accept that.

[Cypocryphy]

Stop dude. He didn’t win 2 or 7. 6 and 12 were not swing rounds. The majority of people scoring in the rbr thread agreed.

You picked Loma to win so you’re going out of your way to give him rounds he didn’t earn. That is disgraceful.

I posted he was almost down, not stopped. Yes, Lopez was hurt in the 11th, no question.

He was hurt. But he was desperate. He knew he was down 7-4 and needed a ko to win.

Like I posted to you a few days ago he gets credit for trying to win, unlike Kambosos and Canelo who were content to lose because they had rematch clauses.

Look dude you lose any and all credibility posting Loma won. He lost. You need to accept that.

Why did Crawford score it a draw then? Why did Ward score it a draw (and he gave the second round to Loma as well)? Why did Teddy Atlas score it a draw? Why did Robert Garcia score it a draw? You're terribly biased.

Watch this:

[Cypocryphy]

We disagree. Ref wasn’t that bad. You’re over exaggerating.

If Kambosos tries to win like a man, Haney will ko or stop him. If Kambosos does what he did in the 1st fight, it will be another UD.

What you really mean is Haney can use his speed, length and athleticism to fight at a distance, which both Loma and Tank have had some difficulty with even when they win.

You don’t like Haney so you are posting this to make excuses should they lose to him.

Everyone has difficultly fighting someone with a reach advantage who knows how to use that reach advantage. That's why it's always mentioned before a fight. You have to be crafty enough to defeat that reach advantage.

Both Tank and Loma know how to get past a long reach, but the problem is when you have a guy that rehydrates 20 plus pounds and decides to hang on you whenever you collapse the pocket. That's the problem. And that referee was ****. Everyone knows it.

[The Big Dunn]

Why did Crawford score it a draw then? Why did Ward score it a draw (and he gave the second round to Loma as well)? Why did Teddy Atlas score it a draw? Why did Robert Garcia score it a draw? You're terribly biased.

Watch this:

My guess is Because they were TR employees at the time. Ward’s score was roundly criticized. As was Atlas’s. I didn’t know about Garcia.

You post these 4 but are not being honest about the majority of media not are you talking about other pros and trainers that scores e fight .The majority had Loma losing 8-4.

I am not biased in any way. I picked Loma as well. I scored during the rbr thread. I scored fairly and unbiased.

He lost dude.

[The Big Dunn]

Everyone has difficultly fighting someone with a reach advantage who knows how to use that reach advantage. That's why it's always mentioned before a fight. You have to be crafty enough to defeat that reach advantage.

Both Tank and Loma know how to get past a long reach, but the problem is when you have a guy that rehydrates 20 plus pounds and decides to hang on you whenever you collapse the pocket. That's the problem. And that referee was ****. Everyone knows it.

They do that against lesser comp. Just like Canelo has some success against long armed guys, but not Floyd and Bivol.

[Cypocryphy]

My guess is Because they were TR employees at the time. Ward’s score was roundly criticized. As was Atlas’s. I didn’t know about Garcia.

You post these 4 but are not being honest about the majority of media not are you talking about other pros and trainers that scores e fight .The majority had Loma losing 8-4.

I am not biased in any way. I picked Loma as well. I scored during the rbr thread. I scored fairly and unbiased.

He lost dude.

I'm going to leave it at this because I'm not exactly trying to persuade you. You are beyond biased, and even if the evidence is right in front of you, you'll deny it. So it doesn't matter. But I'm going to leave it at this: Lomachenko BEAT Teofimo Lopez. Simple as.