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  • #61
    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post

    Tyson Fury
    Enjoying his retirement and going down as the best HW of this era. Had a massive homecoming fight. Even has the option of being undisputed HW champ if he chooses to do so since the WBC will not strip him. Sounds pretty awesome to me. How's Wilder doing though? He has been inactive since the 3rd beating from Fury and nobody noticed or cared.

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    • #62
      I could see a tuneup fight coming. Wait at least five months to actual fight night for the tuneup. Then after the tuneup, wait for at least a year for his come back fight. Yeah, all that waiting and fans end up getting soft touches. You'd wonder why they don't just retire.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

        Lewis and Bruno were a bit boring, but Fury and Wilder are exciting? What fights were you watching to come up with this? Fury and Wilder are mostly boring. Lewis and Bruno were mostly exciting.

        Ali is one of the most boring fighters to exist apart from a few fights. Holmes wasn't that much better in that department either.
        Fury's only boring fight was possibly against Wlad, but even that I found interesting because it was a title fight and Fury's awkward style is moderately entertaining to watch.

        As for Ali, I have a sneaking su****ion you only factor in KOs when weighing entertainment. Ali and Holme's KO ratio is actually not that bad, but it was their technical prowess and fluidity that was a joy to watch. Ali's one flourish in a 15 round fight is a spectacle and far more entertaining than anything I've ever seen in a ring since. Nothing comes close to the artistry of Ali.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by jonnyc420 View Post

          Enjoying his retirement and going down as the best HW of this era. Had a massive homecoming fight. Even has the option of being undisputed HW champ if he chooses to do so since the WBC will not strip him. Sounds pretty awesome to me. How's Wilder doing though? He has been inactive since the 3rd beating from Fury and nobody noticed or cared.
          You mean forced retirement don't you? His illegal drug use, connections to organized crime and ties to the mob is forcing him into retirement. He can never fight again or else he faces a federal prison sentence from the U.S. Due to his ties to a reputed Mob King Pin and Crime Lord.

          Wilder is clean. He is an upstanding global citizen. Which is why they resurrected a statue of him in his hometown. Fury's ties to organized crime and the mob is how he he defeated Deontay Wilder in the first place. He had to cheat to win.

          Tyson Fury is and has always been a front for the mob which is why Bob Arum cut ties with him and Frank Warren. ESPN and Top Rank shall never do business with Tyson Fury again.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post

            Fury cherry picked Wilder knowing he’d beat him rather easy and didn’t have to be on point twice . Multiple drops would be actually Wilder which are actually career ending fights for him ,and Fury fought Whyte afterwards while Wilder hasn’t even returned shows how twisted you fanboys are to suggest it’s Fury to be done with boxing .
            I didn't suggest it, Fury did. He brought up retirement, not me. Pay attention mate. There are lots of pics around with Fury (definitely a great one) on his back or his butt thanks to Wilder.

            I understand your misguided point though. I think WIlder should take a long break. Head injuries and concussions take time to heal. More blows to the head are a terrible idea. Given his age, I understand if he doesn't want to sit out for long. It would probably be the same for many fighters. Naturally, misguided anti-fans don't care about any boxers long term health except maybe their favorites, and think it's a good time to kick a warrior while they are down. That's a chump move really.
            That said, if Wilder gets himself good to go he will still be very dangerous. Hoefully it goes well for him, but it may not. That's We all heard what Tyson Fury said about WIlder being number 2 in HIS opinion. I don't think yours matters mate.
            Last edited by MastaBlasta; 05-31-2022, 06:25 PM.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by champion4ever View Post

              You mean forced retirement don't you? His illegal drug use, connections to organized crime and ties to the mob is forcing him into retirement. He can never fight again or else he faces a federal prison sentence from the U.S. Due to his ties to a reputed Mob King Pin and Crime Lord.

              Wilder is clean. He is an upstanding global citizen. Which is why they resurrected a statue of him in his hometown. Fury's ties to organized crime and the mob is how he he defeated Deontay Wilder in the first place. He had to cheat to win.

              Tyson Fury is and has always been a front for the mob which is why Bob Arum cut ties with him and Frank Warren. ESPN and Top Rank shall never do business with Tyson Fury again.
              Talk about a reach lol, geez you are pathetic. Funny you pretend like you didn't bow down and admit to me that Fury was better than Wilder, now he's a cheat again? What a cowardly little man with no integrity. Fury isn't going anywhere and the WBC, Top Rank and Hearn are all on board with a unification with whoever wins between AJ and Usyk.

              You are clearly living in a fantasy world, everyone wants a peice of that pie. Fury is guaranteed ticket seller on 2 continents and it drives you crazy. You fantasize about the man's downfall because he stomped Wilder 3 times and exposed him. Cracks me up that you are talking about things you clearly don't understand.

              Explain how the mob helped Fury beat Wilder, what did they do? Be sure to provide proof to your claims, oh wait you wont be able too cuz you are full of s**t and nothing but a Fury hating clown. Fury owned Wilder and it kills you because you came off looking like a fool.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                So where is he now? I swear Karma's a bitch!
                Wherever he is, wherever he goes, he's the undefeated WBC HW champion.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post

                  You used ***** as an example of someone who fails to stir excitement. You're a ****ing mook.

                  You're following me around the forum because I called you a crybaby troll. You're a ****ing mook.

                  So ****ing ******. I can't wait to catch yer ass talking nonsense to someone else again just to very blatantly pull your attention off them only because I know you're soft. ****ing hell bud. Pick up your game, you lost this one badly.
                  Correction: I made you look the fool so you're desperately trying to pull something back. But in doing so, you just set yourself up for another fall.

                  I used ***** as an example of people talking about him, but not in the positive sense. You believed people talking about Wilder were only doing so as to confirm supposed excitement. The point is clear, but you don't like the fact i slap you down with such ease so go for the gaslighting route instead.

                  The forum is public, ******. I'm following no one around. If i see a comment from someone which is ******, i'll point it out. Don't make ****** comments if you don't like it. Go to a private forum instead and you can say whatever mad things you want till your hearts content.

                  Do you even know what a troll is? clearly not. You and the other dribblers clearly are though. I prove it enough times. Delusion is not a defence against truth.

                  be specific and point out what the supposed "Nonsense" i was talking? Lets break it down and see if it's logical or not?

                  I lost nothing but braincells engaging with you. Anything else is just a figment of your imagination.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by manfrommars View Post

                    Fury's only boring fight was possibly against Wlad, but even that I found interesting because it was a title fight and Fury's awkward style is moderately entertaining to watch.

                    As for Ali, I have a sneaking su****ion you only factor in KOs when weighing entertainment. Ali and Holme's KO ratio is actually not that bad, but it was their technical prowess and fluidity that was a joy to watch. Ali's one flourish in a 15 round fight is a spectacle and far more entertaining than anything I've ever seen in a ring since. Nothing comes close to the artistry of Ali.
                    Fury's last outing was boring as hell. The only redeeming thing about it was the KO.

                    Many fights that are without a KO are more exciting than fights with one in. Barrera/Morales 1. Lewis/Mercer. Gatti/Ward 1 etc etc.. I like the KO like anybody else, but a good fight is a good fight, regardless if it goes to points or not.

                    Ali is one of the most boring fighters i've ever watched. His supposed "Artistry" is a lie nearly every time too. If i was to ask which world level fighters Ali performed against as you describe, who would you put forward? No shot fighters either.

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