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  • #11
    Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post
    Canelo wants to create a narrative that says he was going up in weight chasing greatness and fell short. But that's all bs. Because in reality, he was running from Benavidez, and going up in weight only because he thought he saw something sweet in Bivol. Turns out, Bivol was bitter as a mofo and kicked his carrot top ass. He did the same thing when he hopped up to fight Kovalev. He only goes up and picks ppl he thinks he can easily beat he knew Kovalev was drunk off potato vodka when he fought him. He also wanted to go up to fight a big slow cruiserweight. That's not chasing greatness, that's cherry picking at it's finest. And no one cherry picks as good as Canelo Alvarez. Ppl that know boxing understand this. All his best wins have an asterisk next to them, because u can look at all of them and see why he took those fights when he did. He only goes when he thinks he sees something sweet and always avoids the tougher available fights in his own weight class. But u keep running from who the fans wanna see u fight, and this is what happens. U run right into a problem and get ur ass whooped. Good for u. And u ain't the best in boxing. That would be Bud or Boots right now
    Speak that truth!!
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    • #12
      Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post
      Canelo wants to create a narrative that says he was going up in weight chasing greatness and fell short. But that's all bs. Because in reality, he was running from Benavidez, and going up in weight only because he thought he saw something sweet in Bivol. Turns out, Bivol was bitter as a mofo and kicked his carrot top ass. He did the same thing when he hopped up to fight Kovalev. He only goes up and picks ppl he thinks he can easily beat he knew Kovalev was drunk off potato vodka when he fought him. He also wanted to go up to fight a big slow cruiserweight. That's not chasing greatness, that's cherry picking at it's finest. And no one cherry picks as good as Canelo Alvarez. Ppl that know boxing understand this. All his best wins have an asterisk next to them, because u can look at all of them and see why he took those fights when he did. He only goes when he thinks he sees something sweet and always avoids the tougher available fights in his own weight class. But u keep running from who the fans wanna see u fight, and this is what happens. U run right into a problem and get ur ass whooped. Good for u. And u ain't the best in boxing. That would be Bud or Boots right now
      Why would Canelo run from Benavidez? Who the hell did Benavidez beat? He has 15 fights as an amateur. As a pro he has only one notable win and that's washed-up Anthony Dirrell. Benavidez doesn't even have a belt. If you wanna blame someone for Canelo fight not happened, blame Benavidez's unprofessional ass for losing that same belt twice for being a bum! Because Canelo took all the belts at 168. And what did he do next? Went up to 175 and fought someone like Bivol who has close to 300 amateur fights and has notable wins such as Felix Valera, Sullivan Barrera, Isaac Chilemba, Jean Pascal, Joe Smith. And Bivol had 16 fights when he beat all those names. I'm asking again. Who the hell did Benavidez beat to deserve a Canelo fight?
      Last edited by DFM; 05-27-2022, 09:18 AM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by boxingcoachontario View Post
        Real talk - going up in a dif weight class and fighting a champion in that weight class is almost impossible to achieve at the highest levels. Most boxers don’t even try it, but I feel Canelo got to overconfident. It took him years to fight Golovkin at 160 since he took his time making that weight class, he took 168 too easy and jumped to the 175 right away. Your body needs time to get used to that weight.

        Too overconfident = a recipe for a loss.

        Look at Roy Jones Jr. or recently Mikey Garcia.
        Real talk?? Almost everybody moves up in weight and wins titles. You got like 3 guys right now that dont, Spence and Charlo's. Everyone else mves up and wins titles, it's been SOP for decades lmao.

        it took years, he dropped belts, and took roids because he was scared of GGG. This is revisionist bull****!

        He cherry picked Rocky, Kova, Plant, Yildrim, Smith, and Saunders. He thought Bivol was a cherry too, even Hearn said Bivol wouldn't have been selected if he didn't look like like **** against Richards and Castillo.

        What about Roy and Mikey? They've won multiple belts in multiple classes. YDKSAB, keep it moving kid.

        Originally posted by NCBoxingPro View Post
        Roy started at 160
        Roy started at 156.

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        • #14
          The best in the world dont lose a fight 10-2 or 9-3, PERIOD. Those scorecards were bullsh.it
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          • #15
            Originally posted by DFM View Post

            Why would Canelo run from Benavidez? Who the hell did Benavidez beat? He has 15 fights as an amateur. As a pro he has only one notable win and that's washed-up Anthony Dirrell. Benavidez doesn't have even have a belt. If you wanna blame someone for Canelo fight not happened, blame Benavidez's unprofessional ass for losing that same belt twice for being a bum! Because Canelo took all the belts at 168. And what did he do next? Went up to 175 and fought someone like Bivol who has close to 300 amateur fights and has notable wins such as Felix Valera, Sullivan Barrera, Isaac Chilemba, Jean Pascal, Joe Smith. And Bivol had 16 fights when he beat all those names. I'm asking again. Who the hell Benavidez beat to deserve a Canelo fight?
            Who did he beat, doesn't have a belt. Blah blah blah ---> it's about the best fighting the best. Now amateur fights come into it, huh? LMAO!

            He's scared because he knows he'll lose. Same reason why he ran from Andrade and took ~5,000,000 less to fight Kovalev ---> Andrade had $40,000,000 offer to fight Canelo.

            Cleneloterol was scared to fight GGG, dropped belts and shot Clenbuterol into his veins, I mean this is a scared man when the real challenges are there, hardly fearless.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by NCBoxingPro View Post

              Roy started at 160. He won titles at 160, 168, 175, and heavyweight. He had problems coming back down to Light Heavy when he fought a juiced up Antonio Carver. BUT HE TOTALLY BLEW JOHN RUIZ OUT OF THE WATER. THEIR FIGHT WASN'T EVEN CLOSE.

              So I don't see the correlation with Roy.

              Canelo DID NOT beat a prime Kovalev and that fight was extremely close until the 11th. I mean I respect Canelo's hustle for going up in weight, but this isn't anything new that he's doing. There's guys at 160 and 168 that beats Canelo right now. He doesn't beat Bivol at 168 or 175.

              He lost to Golovkin at 160, but we tend to forget that regardless of what the scorecards said. No one had Canelo winning that fight including this site Boxing Scene.

              I think Canelo got exactly what he needed which a good slice of humble pie. And there's no shame in that. I'm a big fan of Canelo, but I can also be objective too.

              Me as a Canelo fan would love to see him fight Benavidez because I think he can win, but for some reason he chooses not to. Something that I just don't understand.
              Man this post is a rarity on here. The fact you state your a fan but can subjective speaks volumes about your character and I also agree their are fighters at 160 and 168 that even in a loss make Canelo work for it and he can take losses in those classes too.

              I personally am not a fan of Canelo but I give credit for what he is doing because he does take risks even though they are calculated risks. As far as the humble pie he did need that. He got caught up in his own hype and literally and figuratively let his guard down I.E. practicing his gold swing more than preparing for an undefeated champion in a weight class above where he is used to. I also agree the Kovalev fight was extremely close before Kov got caught. I wont speculate who was ahead at the time of the stoppage but he definitely got a weak version of an old champ in that fight.

              As I said I respect Canelo I do think he will get a good win that's not questionable against GGG and I also believe he beats Bivol in the rematch in a fight that's close enough to debate over. Killer post dude if we still gave green karma I'd literally start a thread telling people on here they should read it and take something from it. More posters should more honest about fighters they like.

              On a side note I disagree about Canelo beating Benavidez and I'll probably catch slack for it but I think Benavidez is in a place right now if they fought each other Benavidez would win in a all action fight.

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              • #17
                ahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahh ahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahah, Lay off the drugs Clenelo!
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                • #18
                  This is exactly what makes this guy the best! Floyd Mayweather never fought or challenged GGG? Pacman made Margarito fight at 150 lbs in a 154 weight class. Canelo fought the best 175 at his weight Bivol. Can't knock a guy who fought 3 world champions to take their belts in his weight class. Canelo dare to be great, other are just happy to be there. When did GGG challenged Kovalev? Exactly. Before people give their opinion, think of the whole package, don't be just a casual fan.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by DFM View Post

                    Why would Canelo run from Benavidez? Who the hell did Benavidez beat? He has 15 fights as an amateur. As a pro he has only one notable win and that's washed-up Anthony Dirrell. Benavidez doesn't even have a belt. If you wanna blame someone for Canelo fight not happened, blame Benavidez's unprofessional ass for losing that same belt twice for being a bum! Because Canelo took all the belts at 168. And what did he do next? Went up to 175 and fought someone like Bivol who has close to 300 amateur fights and has notable wins such as Felix Valera, Sullivan Barrera, Isaac Chilemba, Jean Pascal, Joe Smith. And Bivol had 16 fights when he beat all those names. I'm asking again. Who the hell did Benavidez beat to deserve a Canelo fight?
                    Theres plenty of fighters who aint done shi.t to deserve a fight with Saul but they got that fight. Benavidez was 20 when he 1st won the belt. Hes not a kid anymore, has matured and is still undefeated and now is the mandatory for Saul. If he beats Morrell, he'll have 2 belts that make him mandatory to Saul. Ginger either needs to fight him or get stripped. End of story.
                    Last edited by El_Mero; 05-27-2022, 09:29 AM.
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                    • #20
                      “Alvarez will get a chance to prove naysayers wrong and reinsert himself as the cream of the crop once he takes on archival Golovkin, who is now 40 years old.”

                      I like Canelo as a fighter and I praise him for his resume but sorry, beating GGG does nothing for him.

                      GGG is an old man now and clearly past prime. If this fight took place at 168 but vs a younger GGG, it would’ve been fine because Canelo himself is a former 154lb-160lb fighter. It’s really the age that kills this fight, not the weight class.

                      It is what it is, it’s an event, a more popular, more established opponent than almost anyone else he could fight. It’s business, I get it. But while I am against Canelo fighting Benavidez, I admit that even the green, untested Benavidez would be a better match than GGG for Canelo. But GGG > Benavidez or any other 168 fighter in terms of accomplishments, resume, name value, and popularity. And unfortunately Canelo vs GGG will be one of the biggest fights in 2022 in terms of revenue and viewers.

                      I think that GGG is so past prime and so old that the green Benavidez could probably beat him right now.

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