POLL: How To Score A Fight – Jabs To Powerpunches

[Lomadeaux]

This is why Canelo vs Golovkin 1 is draw and 2 is W for Nelo. Defense and clean punching went to Nelo in the first fight. All 4 criterias went to Nelo in the second fight. But but GGG landed jabs.

You should not be judging boxing.

[War Room]

Do you have your period?

That's your comeback? YDKSAB and score pro fights on an amateur algorithm, get called out for being an idiot and all you have to say is am I on my peroid? Do you even hold down a job in real life outside of being the cart collector at Wal-Mart?

[Cypocryphy]

GGG wore sunglasses because of bruise and swollen eyes, not because of cut. Canelo has a cut too and he didn't wear sunglasses. Because his face was clean asf except cut.

Bivol, Lara and Mayweather gave the most facial damages to Canelo. Because Bivol and Mayweather beat him "clearly". Bivol landed clean punches with LHW power, Mayweather landed even cleaner punches with "SFW" power. Key concept is "clean punching". GGG barely landed clean punches in both fights. In a normal world, Golovkin should give much more damage than Mayweather.

Canelo after Golovkin 2

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Canelo after Bivol and Mayweather

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Both guys were cut at the end. Canelo's was just worse, which is why it's remembered.

This is Golovkin after that second fight. He looks fine, so I'm not sure what your point is.

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[billeau2]

You live in your own world old man, one where Frazier is an arm puncher or you know the rules of boxing In other words, not do you not know **** about boxing, you simply don't know ****. Anyway, I just wanted to thank you.

Thank you War Room for dropping your guard (which, in this instance, is your brain) and giving me the opportunity to send you straight to hell.

See here: (NRS 467.030)(And because you're a moron, I'll explain to you that this is an administrative rule in Nevada, promulgated by the Nevada Athletic Commission, which all judges must follow.)

(1) (e) Each judge of a contest or exhibition of mixed martial arts that is being judged shall use the following judging criteria and priority for scoring a round:

(1) The judge shall first assess whether one of the unarmed combatants has an advantage in effective striking or grappling, or both.

(2) If, and only if, effective striking and grappling are even, the judge shall next assess effective aggression to determine the winner of the round. The judge shall not assess or consider effective aggression if effective striking and grappling are not even.

(3) If, and only if, the round is still even after considering the criteria set forth in subparagraphs (1) and (2), the judge shall assess cage or ring control to determine the winner of the round. The judge shall not assess or consider cage or ring control if the criteria set forth in subparagraphs (1) and (2) are not even.

(And to explain to you what "effective" means in this instance, it means that the more powerful blows are given more weight in scoring than punches that have more of a cumulative effect.)

Ahahahah Ahahahaha Tanks for playing old man; say hello to the devil for me

My favorite War Room Quote. Reminded me of the movie "A fish called Wanda" where Jamie Lee Curtis tells Kevin Kline "AND!!!! the idea of Buddhism is NOT everyman for himself... I looked it up!!"

[billeau2]

That's your comeback? YDKSAB and score pro fights on an amateur algorithm, get called out for being an idiot and all you have to say is am I on my peroid? Do you even hold down a job in real life outside of being the cart collector at Wal-Mart?

Someone grind your head to the cobbles again old man? That false bravado will get you hurt!

[Marchegiano]

Jabs, due to body mechanics, can never be as powerful as straights and hooks. It is what it is. And if you doubt what I say, then ask yourself how many people have been KO'd by a jab. Now ask yourself how many people have been KO'd by a hook. Enough said.

If you want to talk physics, I am game for that. If you want to talk bull**** War Room will serve you nicely.

[eco1]

That's your comeback? YDKSAB and score pro fights on an amateur algorithm, get called out for being an idiot and all you have to say is am I on my peroid? Do you even hold down a job in real life outside of being the cart collector at Wal-Mart?

I am not going to answer to you kid since u have EVH there. But I feel you are a bit mad.

[Silence]

Both guys were cut at the end. Canelo's was just worse, which is why it's remembered.

This is Golovkin after that second fight. He looks fine, so I'm not sure what your point is.

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Come on broo.. That image is from first fight. Canelo didn't sit at his punches in the first fight.

This is after second fight.

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Canelo arguably landed cleaner punches in the first fight but his punches were much more powerful in the second bout. He wanted to KO GGG.

[Cypocryphy]

If you want to talk physics, I am game for that. If you want to talk bull**** War Room will serve you nicely.

Yes. I know. He basically was arguing with me only to assist me in proving my point and defeating himself. Only War Room could accomplish that.

So with the jab, there are basically several ways (well more than that) where you can throw a jab, but the most powerful jabs are jolt jabs (or step jabs as they say). You don't want to put your hips so much in them and you are leading with your shoulder, so there isn't quit as much force being put into it as a rear hand straight or hook (overhands are included with hooks). Even a leading hook will have more power than a jab because you have your back, hips, legs and arm muscles being put into that punch (along with bodyweight). So even though a jab could hit harder than any of the other types of punches, it is a hundred times easier to hit harder with every punch other than a jab.

It is due to this understanding of punch mechanics that you have many judges (can't speak for all) that consider jabs as inferior to other punches. This has been the case for a long time because we even have Compubox differentiating between jabs and "power punches." By inference, you have to assume they consider jabs to have no "power" because, otherwise, we'd just have "power punches."

Even though the laws I posted for judges to follow are for a mixed martial arts matched, those rules are based on how judges are to score boxing matches. They just added the grappling aspect to it and changed "punches" to "strikes."

[Cypocryphy]

Come on broo.. That image is from first fight. Canelo didn't sit at his punches in the first fight.

This is after second fight.

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Canelo arguably landed cleaner punches in the first fight but his punches were much more powerful in the second bout. He wanted to KO GGG.

LMAO!! GTFOH! That's a photoshopped image of Golovkin!! This is exactly what I'm talking about. Go back and watch the fight.

Here's a correct photo. I knew something was up when that cut wasn't there. This is a correct, non-photoshopped image:

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https://sports.yahoo.com/ggg-goaded-canelo-fighting-mexican-style-still-couldnt-pull-off-win-071912972.html