POLL: How To Score A Fight – Jabs To Powerpunches

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  • Damn Wicked
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    #41
    Too many variables that factor into a punch, whether it’s a jab or a power punch. There are weak power punches and there are powerful jabs. We’ve all seen fights where a guy is knocked out by a seemingly harmless punch. We can’t accurately discern the power of a punch by just looking at it. The best way to judge a punch is by how the fighter on the receiving end reacts to it, and even that doesn’t tell the whole story. Maybe the punch connected perfectly, right on the button but it wasn’t a particularly hard punch but it still dropped the guy. Just last night Tank said he really didn’t put much power into the punch that stopped Rolly. It looked like Rolly ran into that punch and it hit him in the perfect spot to drop him. It could also be that Rolly doesn’t take punches well. Maybe he has a weak chin. One thing that really struck me at the weigh-in was that Rolly’s head looked a lot smaller than Tank’s. Rolly looks longer but Tank looks like he has thicker bone size. Who knows for sure if this was a factor…but maybe we’ll see how good Rolly’s chin is in the future. Maybe he’ll redeem himself, or maybe he’ll end up being the knew Amir Khan.

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    • Citizen Koba
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      #42
      Originally posted by Cypocryphy

      Jabs, due to body mechanics, can never be as powerful as straights and hooks. It is what it is. And if you doubt what I say, then ask yourself how many people have been KO'd by a jab. Now ask yourself how many people have been KO'd by a hook. Enough said.
      On average of course hooks or starights are more powerful, but a strong, clean jab can cause more effect than a weaker, glancing or partially deflected power punch and if it does it should be scored as such. Basically each individual punch should be factored into the scoring on it's own merits based on it's perceived effect NOT on what type of punch it happened to be.

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      • Silence
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        #43
        Originally posted by Cypocryphy

        LMAO!! GTFOH! That's a photoshopped image of Golovkin!! This is exactly what I'm talking about. Go back and watch the fight.

        Here's a correct photo. I knew something was up when that cut wasn't there. This is a correct, non-photoshopped image:


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        https://sports.yahoo.com/ggg-goaded-...071912972.html
        You gtfoh Lil G got brutalized.

        e9592a2ef3d2b29e750401935d3b8c36.jpg
        images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHy8j-mjLPsBSim1QCjvdtmHI3R8HTB3HxNw&usqp=CAU.jpg
        images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZxMCKFL4coCp_NNliyTUO_npK3WLXFD4Otg&usqp=CAU.jpgHis face will be worse in September. Canelo is coming with his SMW power.

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        • Cypocryphy
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          #44
          Originally posted by Citizen Koba

          On average of course hooks or starights are more powerful, but a strong, clean jab can cause more effect than a weaker, glancing or partially deflected power punch and if it does it should be scored as such. Basically each individual punch should be factored into the scoring on it's own merits based on it's perceived effect NOT on what type of punch it happened to be.
          I completely agree. Every punch should be assessed individually. But from statements that Carl Moretti and others in the business have made, there is a schematic that judges seem to follow, which is that jabs can never be equivalent to power punches. This is why so many people couldn't understand how Canelo was able to draw and then subsequently beat Golovkin the second time. It came down to the value the judges were giving jabs. So if they were scoring the fight as you stated, Golovkin should have won both fights. However, the judges gave Canelo's power punches much more value than Golovkin's jabs, and that caused the cards we saw, and it's why ringside media overwhelmingly had Golovkin winning both fights, while the judges did not.

          In their eyes, the jab can never do as much damage as a straight or a hook. And I think it's debatable whether this is actually a less subjective way of scoring a fight or a more subject way because if everyone were able to give whatever value to whatever punch landed, perhaps we'd have wild discrepancies in scorecards. I'm not sure how that would play out.

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