Roy Jones Calls Bivol Cherry Pick

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Michael1437
    Contender
    Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
    • Mar 2017
    • 483
    • 38
    • 5
    • 12,443

    #21
    Originally posted by Vlad_
    Canelo was a 5-1 favorite.
    I still couldn't believe that Nelo was that much of a favorite, I told my father in law that Bivol was very good and to me I thought he would be too much for Canelo

    Comment

    • Clegg
      Banned
      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
      • Mar 2008
      • 24673
      • 3,726
      • 2,307
      • 233,274

      #22
      5 mins into this, Tarver hasn't spoken yet. Longest he's ever gone without speaking. Paulie basically saying "I got in trouble for saying this before but I'm gonna say it again anyway..." lol.
      Last edited by Clegg; 05-20-2022, 02:32 PM.

      Comment

      • hugh grant
        Undisputed Champion
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Apr 2006
        • 30524
        • 2,195
        • 918
        • 105,596

        #23
        Originally posted by Oracle01

        Who cares what you personally thought. Overall Bivol was a heavy underdog that is fact. Being a cherry pick does not mean you are a bum, it just means your the easiest option. Jones is right.
        bivil is easiest option? As long as you don't have to fight him

        Comment

        • Cypocryphy
          I DISPUTE YOUR UNDISPUTED
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Apr 2020
          • 4698
          • 1,657
          • 1,436
          • 14,834

          #24
          Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
          Roy doesn't know WTF he's taking about. I think his brain has been hijacked by LDBC narratives. It's so obvious that I don't know how to explain it any simpler. Bivol was the easiest entry point for Canelo to attempt his undisputed run at 175 pounds. He was not a cherry pick. He was what was deemed the "weakest link" in a stacked division because Bivol hadn't KO'd someone in several fights. Canelo assumed that without crazy KO power like Beterbiev, he could use Bivol to acclimate before fighting the winner of Beterbiev vs Smith. He obviously underestimated Bivol to a certain extent, but no more than any boxer does to any opponent. Bivol hits harder than Canelo imagined, as we can see from his face the first time Bivol let go of a combo. He also thought he'd be more effective at hitting Bivol with everything he has, but Bivol's back-stepping took a lot of the steam off of Canelo's punches.

          It is what it is, but what it is not is a cherry pick. It was an earnest attempt by Canelo to become undisputed at a different weight class. What did Benavidez have to offer Canelo as far as legacy? Nothing. What did Charlo have to off as far as legacy? Nothing. What did Errol have to off Canelo as far as legacy? Nothing but a name, and that name isn't worth much when that name has to jump several weight classes and be the small guy.

          What's wrong with Roy? He's smarter than this.

          Comment

          • eco1
            Undisputed Champion
            Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
            • Nov 2015
            • 10080
            • 1,758
            • 8,639
            • 71,221

            #25
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            Nelo was underdog, its not a cherry pick. Cherry picks are when you pick weak underdogs. Picking underdogs is ok, but try pick the stronger underdog. Bivol would be a stronger underdog than a charlo, or andrade. Even beterbiev isnt a stronger opponent than Bivol. Althought beterbiev might be favourite against Nelo.
            What do you mean Bivol wasn't the underdog? LOL. That is what everyone said.

            Just a few of us had him winning.
            If there is a rematch, I have Bivol KO-ing Clenelo.

            Comment

            • 4truth
              U can't handle the Truth
              Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
              • Feb 2016
              • 15276
              • 4,152
              • 1,672
              • 197,686

              #26
              I honestly would have put money on Bivol but, as I feared, Bivol needed to dominate to even get a squeaky thin decision. I think the odds reflected this.

              Comment

              • hugh grant
                Undisputed Champion
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • Apr 2006
                • 30524
                • 2,195
                • 918
                • 105,596

                #27
                Originally posted by eco1

                What do you mean Bivol wasn't the underdog? LOL. That is what everyone said.

                Just a few of us had him winning.
                If there is a rematch, I have Bivol KO-ing Clenelo.
                Yes bivil was underdog but had a good chance to win.. Maybe a better chance than anyone at 168. So wasn't a cherrypick

                Comment

                • eco1
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 10080
                  • 1,758
                  • 8,639
                  • 71,221

                  #28
                  Originally posted by hugh grant

                  Yes bivil was underdog but had a good chance to win.. Maybe a better chance than anyone at 168. So wasn't a cherrypick
                  Bivol was the underdog, that I known the other part: cry me a river and F Clenelo.

                  Comment

                  • Carpe Diem
                    Seize the day
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 16020
                    • 1,232
                    • 996
                    • 44,413

                    #29
                    Originally posted by hugh grant

                    I know Nell was betting favourite. But I thought bivol would win so Nel o was my underdog.
                    point being bivol was one of the stronger underdogs so can't be deemed cherry pick, otherwise it starts getting silly
                    You have mastered the art of trolling.

                    Comment

                    • BodyBagz
                      The Stuff Of Nightmares
                      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                      • Apr 2020
                      • 29772
                      • 6,045
                      • 6,437
                      • 108,454

                      #30
                      1998 -2003...RJJ consisted entirely on cherries

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP