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  • #31
    Originally posted by Smash View Post

    This is a very true statement, u cannot force someone to fight at a weight they dont want to fight at, well unless u make them an offer they cant refuse i guess
    Now a rematch at 175 is a different case. Bivol has a "legal" agreement to give Canelo a rematch at 175, but not at any other weight, which was my point. I would like to see them skip the rematch and fight at 168 as that would (imo) be a more interesting fight.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by OldTerry View Post

      Now a rematch at 175 is a different case. Bivol has a "legal" agreement to give Canelo a rematch at 175, but not at any other weight, which was my point. I would like to see them skip the rematch and fight at 168 as that would (imo) be a more interesting fight.
      yes and more winnable for nelo u would think, flip side im sure he has to pay more to bivol to bring him down plus his belts are on the line so a loss at 168 would be very costly indeed, but nelo backs himself at 168 more im sure and there is an issue of his pride and his fans too

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Smash View Post

        This is a very true statement, u cannot force someone to fight at a weight they dont want to fight at, well unless u make them an offer they cant refuse i guess
        The only reason Ginger would say no to 168 is simple: FEAR ...
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        • #34
          Originally posted by slindee3 View Post
          I've always believed that Canelo was overrated just like Del a hoya. Like Del a hoya, he's made his fame and fortune off of decent fighters. Put him up against elite fighters, hall of famers, he will lose. Like Del a hoya, he does not have one hall of famer on his resume, maybe Whitaker and GGG, but he was handed a gift against Whitaker and in their first GGG fight. Same for Lara. Canelo has now lost to Floyd, a hall of famer and Bivol, possible hall of famer, but an elite boxer. Every elite fighter Oscar faced, he lost to. He lost to Trinidad, Floyd, Mosely (2x), Bhop, and Pac.

          I don't believe he'll go for the rematch next, another loss and his so called invincibility is gone. He'll go with GGG and he damn sure won't fight Beterbiev or Benevidez anytime soon, if ever. He's good, but I don't believe he'll beat the top fighters.
          The GREAT difference being that although Oscar had a "Brains Trust" which carefully considered all his fights , and only chose the definitely winnable ones, He was a far better fighter and boxer than Alvarez. He lost to his HOF opponents, yes, but he FOUGHT them. and did well, although not enough to win.

          After he lost that narrow fight against Trinidad (he did lose) he became less choosy and fought more risky foes than before. He came up short, but was always capable of winning, and gave it his best.

          His cocaine habit had a lot to do with his losses I'd say. But again, quality wise , far superior to Alvarez.
          Last edited by edgarg; 05-11-2022, 03:32 PM. Reason: typo
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          • #35
            Originally posted by OldTerry View Post

            Now a rematch at 175 is a different case. Bivol has a "legal" agreement to give Canelo a rematch at 175, but not at any other weight, which was my point. I would like to see them skip the rematch and fight at 168 as that would (imo) be a more interesting fight.
            What if Bivol actually challenges Ginger @ 168 ? That would have nothing to do with the rematch @ 175 right ?

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            • #36
              Win/win for Bivol if he takes the rematch at 168. HUGE payday plus he gets all the belts at 168 if he beats Canelo again and if he loses he can just use the weight issue for the reason and still have his 175 belt. I say do it in September

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              • #37
                Did Nelo just have an off night,?



                Nope bivol boxed his ears off, canelo has no choice but to go for a rematch at 175, bivol will be less careful, and get the ko.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by OldTerry View Post

                  I don't think Canelo will fight Bivol at 168 for the four Belts, too much to lose. If they do fight at 168, then my hat is off to Canelo. The rematch will be at 175 with Canelo having nothing to lose belt wise.
                  You might well be right there

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                  • #39
                    You couldn't get rematch from your first loss so I'm sure you'll activate it this time

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                    • #40
                      Even bivol acknowledge his rival character and willingness to achieve greatness yet haters just hating at will no matter what,its damn shame they refer themselves as 'boxing fans'
                      Last edited by HeyDeebo!; 05-11-2022, 05:27 PM.

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