Comments Thread For: Bivol on Canelo: I Think He Wants a Rematch; He's a Guy Who Loves a Challenge

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  • HeadShots
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    #11
    Originally posted by ramses07

    It’s not that Bivol is too big, it’s that he acclimated at weight

    he can show his skills, compsure etc comfortably at that weight

    canelo was just fighting at 160 not that long ago

    So going up in weight that much probably slowed him down and wore on his stamina

    his issues with stamina had kinda gone away

    but that’s really why weight classes exist not cause of size but how good u can really be at a particular weight



    his issue with stamina has to do with Bivol's pressure and pressure. he never let Canelo fight at his pace.

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      #12
      Originally posted by HeadShots




      his issue with stamina has to do with Bivol's pressure and pressure. he never let Canelo fight at his pace.
      Yeah im sure him throwing haymakers in the first half of the fight, or the extra weight didnt have anything to do with it.

      I also agree that his pace added to tiring him out

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      • HeadShots
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        #13
        Originally posted by ramses07

        Yeah im sure him throwing haymakers in the first half of the fight, or the extra weight didnt have anything to do with it.

        I also agree that his pace added to tiring him out

        Bivol would D up when Canelo was on offense. When Canelo tries to take a breather, Bivol would piece him up that entire time. Canelo couldn't breathe in there.

        his gas tank has never looked so bad for a reason. This is a guy who gets 11 round KO's late n the fight. he was done by 6th.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #14
          Originally posted by Smash
          sounds like bivol is willing to give 168 a crack for all the belts & a 10 mil plus payday
          Yup. Sounds like Bivol thinks he’d make an easy 8 figures.

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            #15
            Originally posted by P to the J
            '...size, speed, and technique was far too much for the sport’s box office and pound-for-pound star.'


            Strange that Callum Smith, Caleb Plant, Rocky Fielding, and Sergey Kovalev weren't too big, though they measure between 6'0 and 6'3", but Bivol who is also 6'0" was. What gave him a real advantage over Canelo was superior footwork, and boxing know-how, enabling him to either get out of range or use a perfect guard at precise moments.

            Being a bit taller is not even 10% of this story. Esp. bearing in mind that he did a lot of fighting in the pocket, and fights in a slightly crouched stance, thus giving up his height advantage, anyway.

            Bivol should take this fight at 168 to shut the boxing media up; a class who are increasingly persuading me that thye know not a lot about the sport they're reporting on.


            And yes, I do need to get a life, and drop this insane crusade to ensure Bivol gets the credit he deserves. But no, I don't think I'm going to.
            Good points. But Rocky Fielding? Ha ha.

            One big difference between Bivol and Fielding is that Bivol knows what a sit-up is.

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              #16
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              Yup. Sounds like Bivol thinks he’d make an easy 8 figures.
              apparently bivol was 183 fight night as someone else mentioned, so thats 15ibs down to 168

              the fight had 1 round in the scores, presume nelo will be a bit better and bivol a bit worse (maybe) soooooo its a very good challenge either way for him if thats what he does, maybe the cash would be worth it to him even if he does drop a decision this time or maybe he can recreate his form 100% at 168 and do the same again, seems a tough ask to me, isnt moving down for a career guy like him harder than going up a bit, i presume it is

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              • Ry92
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                #17
                4 fight deal Take the rematch make a star and tons of $ especially with inflation, catchweight 171 all the belts 50/50, 55/45 split. Ppv Get the win, fight callum smith in uk build upon audience regular tv, stay busy kovalov in moscow for home plus name on resume then beterbiev ppv for all the belts if win could do a rematch if close ect. 3/4th ppv david benevidez in vegas. Beterbiev could take out ramiraz in mexico or texas if beat smith then its bivol fight. It would help with ppv for unification bringing uk and hispanic eyes.

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                • P to the J
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BustedKnuckles

                  Good points. But Rocky Fielding? Ha ha.

                  One big difference between Bivol and Fielding is that Bivol knows what a sit-up is.
                  Lol, right on. But he's about that height, is my point

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                  • P to the J
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Verus

                    I think the combination of the things you mentioned were important factors. The ring weight was an important factor. Bivol has been fighting at light heavy since his amateur days. That much weight is a bit too much for Canelo and it showed in the right. Weight aside, Bivol has much more skill, experience and talent than the 168 lb. champions that Canelo fought. Apart from his quickness and skill level, Bivol stamina far exceeds those guys as well. A fight with Canelo at 168 would be a better fight.
                    This is a far better point about weight that not one boxing journo featured on here as said yet.

                    Bivol can take heavier shots, for sure.

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                    • P to the J
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by jockpunk

                      Just being taller than someone doesn't mean you are bigger. Ryan Garcia is 5'10. Is he bigger than canelo too?
                      That's a really good point. Canelo is big set, and always has been.

                      In terms of mass, there's not much in it, comparing him with Bivol.

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