Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Comments Thread For: Bivol on Canelo: I Think He Wants a Rematch; He's a Guy Who Loves a Challenge

Collapse
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #21
    Originally posted by ramses07 View Post

    It’s not that Bivol is too big, it’s that he acclimated at weight

    he can show his skills, compsure etc comfortably at that weight

    canelo was just fighting at 160 not that long ago

    So going up in weight that much probably slowed him down and wore on his stamina

    his issues with stamina had kinda gone away

    but that’s really why weight classes exist not cause of size but how good u can really be at a particular weight
    you make good points, and I'm not dismissing size entirely, but I am minimizing it as a cause of defear.

    For one, these stamina issues weren't apparent against Kovalev. By way of contrast, if anybody comes in fighting Bivol's exact fight at 168 or 160 vs Canelo, he'll probably gas almost as quick fighting that same fight. He needs to condition, and change his approach (stop KO hunting).

    Comment


    • #22
      Originally posted by Smash View Post

      apparently bivol was 183 fight night as someone else mentioned, so thats 15ibs down to 168

      the fight had 1 round in the scores, presume nelo will be a bit better and bivol a bit worse (maybe) soooooo its a very good challenge either way for him if thats what he does, maybe the cash would be worth it to him even if he does drop a decision this time or maybe he can recreate his form 100% at 168 and do the same again, seems a tough ask to me, isnt moving down for a career guy like him harder than going up a bit, i presume it is

      Wasn't Canelo like 175-180 against Amir Khan though? He looked ****ing massive, even back then!

      Yo, you got it point. It won't be THAT easy to lose the weight for Bivol. But he is definitely on the smaller end of the LHW spectrum in this era. Especially when you got SMW's bigger than him on fight night.

      Comment


      • #23
        Bivol, a career lightweight, has long expressed that he would be able to go down to 168
        Hope these writers aren't being paid

        Comment


        • #24
          Originally posted by P to the J View Post


          Wasn't Canelo like 175-180 against Amir Khan though? He looked ****ing massive, even back then!

          Yo, you got it point. It won't be THAT easy to lose the weight for Bivol. But he is definitely on the smaller end of the LHW spectrum in this era. Especially when you got SMW's bigger than him on fight night.
          true, if bivol goes to 168 & takes nelos belts, wow thats some achievement, very few guys go down for big fights, they demand catchweights to make it happen

          bivol will need to be as dominant again in the rematch, the fight is a bigger one with all the belts on the line, bivol should demand a % and make a killing in this fight, that cash goes a loooonnggg way in any place ending in stan
          Last edited by Smash; 05-11-2022, 11:44 AM.
          P to the J likes this.

          Comment


          • #25
            Bivol is becoming what Champs should have always been... No trash, no frills, no $100,000 stupid watches and necklaces... Just a pure Boxing venture in greatness... That's very refreshing to see guys like Bivol and Beterbiev at the top of the charts....
            Last edited by Superbee; 05-11-2022, 11:51 AM.
            Knuckle sandwich likes this.

            Comment


            • #26
              I've always believed that Canelo was overrated just like Del a hoya. Like Del a hoya, he's made his fame and fortune off of decent fighters. Put him up against elite fighters, hall of famers, he will lose. Like Del a hoya, he does not have one hall of famer on his resume, maybe Whitaker and GGG, but he was handed a gift against Whitaker and in their first GGG fight. Same for Lara. Canelo has now lost to Floyd, a hall of famer and Bivol, possible hall of famer, but an elite boxer. Every elite fighter Oscar faced, he lost to. He lost to Trinidad, Floyd, Mosely (2x), Bhop, and Pac.

              I don't believe he'll go for the rematch next, another loss and his so called invincibility is gone. He'll go with GGG and he damn sure won't fight Beterbiev or Benevidez anytime soon, if ever. He's good, but I don't believe he'll beat the top fighters.

              Comment


              • #27
                Just because Bivol doesn't fight at 168 doesn't mean he's too big. He just doesn't want to, I guess.

                Comment


                • #28
                  Originally posted by P to the J View Post
                  '...size, speed, and technique was far too much for the sport’s box office and pound-for-pound star.'


                  Strange that Callum Smith, Caleb Plant, Rocky Fielding, and Sergey Kovalev weren't too big, though they measure between 6'0 and 6'3", but Bivol who is also 6'0" was. What gave him a real advantage over Canelo was superior footwork, and boxing know-how, enabling him to either get out of range or use a perfect guard at precise moments.

                  Being a bit taller is not even 10% of this story. Esp. bearing in mind that he did a lot of fighting in the pocket, and fights in a slightly crouched stance, thus giving up his height advantage, anyway.

                  Bivol should take this fight at 168 to shut the boxing media up; a class who are increasingly persuading me that thye know not a lot about the sport they're reporting on.


                  And yes, I do need to get a life, and drop this insane crusade to ensure Bivol gets the credit he deserves. But no, I don't think I'm going to.
                  I don't think Canelo will fight Bivol at 168 for the four Belts, too much to lose. If they do fight at 168, then my hat is off to Canelo. The rematch will be at 175 with Canelo having nothing to lose belt wise.

                  Comment


                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Smash View Post

                    true, if bivol goes to 168 & takes nelos belts, wow thats some achievement, very few guys go down for big fights, they demand catchweights to make it happen

                    bivol will need to be as dominant again in the rematch, the fight is a bigger one with all the belts on the line, bivol should demand a % and make a killing in this fight, that cash goes a loooonnggg way in any place ending in stan
                    The rematch will not be at 168 unless both Bivol and Canelo want it at 168. The rematch that Bivol promised Canelo is at 175.

                    Comment


                    • #30
                      Originally posted by OldTerry View Post

                      The rematch will not be at 168 unless both Bivol and Canelo want it at 168..
                      This is a very true statement, u cannot force someone to fight at a weight they dont want to fight at, well unless u make them an offer they cant refuse i guess

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X
                      TOP