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  • NachoMan
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    #31
    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

    But you said that's the only advantage Usyk has. You gave him no credit for his skill, speed nor ring generalship.
    Size is Usyk’s only advantage over Canelo. Usyk has great skills and fight IQ, not arguing about that, he’s just not better than Canelo in those areas.
    Last edited by NachoMan; 05-06-2022, 05:16 PM.

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    • Boxing Scene
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      #32
      Originally posted by NachoMan

      Size is Usyk’s only advantage over Canelo. Usyk has great skills and fight IQ, not arguing about that, he’s just not better than Canelo in those areas.
      I cannot even ****kng believe what I'm reading here. I mean...are you delusional? You're telling me.Canelo is a better fighter than Usyk? Dude you need to STOP watching boxing. You do know that Canelo has lost fights and been gifted. You can't for a second really tell me you think ***n Canelo has a chance against Usyk? Just dumb as hell. And people like you ruin boxing by elevating a damn 2 time proven drug cheat to heavyweight to beat someone who beat Joshua. Dude get a God damn grip. Canelo wouldn't even beat the 3rd best cruiserweight much less the BEST heavyweight since Fury retired. But please if this fight is such a sure thing mortgage your house on it..because you'll be homeless in 1 to 2 rounds max.

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      • SUBZER0ED
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        #33
        Originally posted by NachoMan

        Size is Usyk’s only advantage over Canelo. Usyk has great skills and fight IQ, not arguing about that, he’s just not better than Canelo in those areas.
        We can only say that for sure if they fight each other. Otherwise, it's subjective.

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          #34
          Originally posted by NachoMan

          Size is Usyk’s only advantage over Canelo. Usyk has great skills and fight IQ, not arguing about that, he’s just not better than Canelo in those areas.
          Being "not better" thus equal in skills... Then you add the power, size, weight ... You know, hard task for Ginger... But anyway he won't get there ....

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          • NachoMan
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            #35
            Originally posted by Boxing Scene

            I cannot even ****kng believe what I'm reading here. I mean...are you delusional? You're telling me.Canelo is a better fighter than Usyk? Dude you need to STOP watching boxing. You do know that Canelo has lost fights and been gifted. You can't for a second really tell me you think ***n Canelo has a chance against Usyk? Just dumb as hell. And people like you ruin boxing by elevating a damn 2 time proven drug cheat to heavyweight to beat someone who beat Joshua. Dude get a God damn grip. Canelo wouldn't even beat the 3rd best cruiserweight much less the BEST heavyweight since Fury retired. But please if this fight is such a sure thing mortgage your house on it..because you'll be homeless in 1 to 2 rounds max.
            Boy you’re an emotional f**k. So damn emotional that you can’t pay attention to what’s been written. You’re making some strawman argument that I said that Canelo would beat Usyk which I did not say, nor do I think they will ever fight.. What I did say multiple times now is that Usyk is not more skilled than Canelo. If Canelo has a loss it’s because he’s fought better competition than Usyk. Not sure how long you followed the sport but the best cruiserweights are not the best fighters in boxing.
            Last edited by NachoMan; 05-06-2022, 06:12 PM.

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            • NachoMan
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              #36
              Originally posted by Superbee

              Being "not better" thus equal in skills... Then you add the power, size, weight ... You know, hard task for Ginger... But anyway he won't get there ....
              Not once did I say Canelo would beat Usyk,

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              • Silence
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                #37
                For delusional idiots, Canelo murders Usyk at the same size in a few rounds. Usyk struggled against plodder Chisora and unskilled bodybuilder. Canelo would murder them easily if he was natural HW or CW. Usyk is arguably the most skilled CW and HW but nowhere near p4p top 5. Canelo, Loma, Crawford, Inoue are far above than him.

                Anyway, Usyk beats Canelo at 200-210 most probably. Usyk will be very comfortable and Canelo will be at his worst in terms of athleticism and skills.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by NachoMan

                  Usyk's ONLY advantage over Canelo is size. He seems like a genius because most CW and HW fighters suck.
                  Not true. Usyk's boxing IQ is sky high, he also has a high output and his shot selection, particularly the way he varies them is truly elite. In my opinion Usyk beats Tyson fury as well.

                  Usyk usually pivots away from orthodox fighters right hands so unless Canelo lands a left hook from the Gods as Usyk is exiting on his left hand side I don't see how Canelo wins that fight at all

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                  • NachoMan
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Elastic Recoilz

                    Not true. Usyk's boxing IQ is sky high, he also has a high output and his shot selection, particularly the way he varies them is truly elite. In my opinion Usyk beats Tyson fury as well.

                    Usyk usually pivots away from orthodox fighters right hands so unless Canelo lands a left hook from the Gods as Usyk is exiting on his left hand side I don't see how Canelo wins that fight at all
                    to be clear I never said that Canelo would beat Usyk. Usyk is just far too big to lose to Canelo. He is not, however, more skilled, experienced or intelligent than Canelo in the ring. If Canelo naturally weighed 230 pounds he would undoubtedly be the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world right now.
                    Last edited by NachoMan; 05-06-2022, 06:39 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Silence
                      For delusional idiots, Canelo murders Usyk at the same size in a few rounds. Usyk struggled against plodder Chisora and unskilled bodybuilder. Canelo would murder them easily if he was natural HW or CW. Usyk is arguably the most skilled CW and HW but nowhere near p4p top 5. Canelo, Loma, Crawford, Inoue are far above than him.

                      Anyway, Usyk beats Canelo at 200-210 most probably. Usyk will be very comfortable and Canelo will be at his worst in terms of athleticism and skills.
                      Your posts are top 3 P4P sewage after faeces and urine.

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