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Originally posted by Corelone View PostAndy is done. AJ ruined him. Now he wants Sprott for pesos. I'd rather watch a Floyd exhibition. Old man Ortiz is like the ugly girl nobody else wants to dance with. Andy just pulled the short straw.
But he has no discipline and already achieved his goal of becoming world champion.
Thus his repeated attempts to duck old man Ortiz who is still high risk, low reward. A southpaw with legitimate KO power and good counterpunching is extremely rare at HW.
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They both suck. Ortiz looked like a complete sh.it fighting Martin and Ruiz looked bad against Arreola and now he wanted to fight Spong.
But this is why it will be a great fight, because we have 2 guys at the same level.
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Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View PostThey both suck. Ortiz looked like a complete sh.it fighting Martin and Ruiz looked bad against Arreola and now he wanted to fight Spong.
But this is why it will be a great fight, because we have 2 guys at the same level.
One of these men lives to get future paydays and one becomes a sideshow gate keeper. To me, it boils down to Ruiz. An in shape Ruiz wins this going away. He is quicker with way more tools in his war chest than Ortiz has at this stage. But Ortiz WILL come in at the best shape he can be. Ortiz will train hard. So if Ruiz is just coasting and is not in love with boxing anymore, I bet Ortiz scores a couple of knockdowns and gets the win.
In shape Ruiz: Easy UD, possible KO in the championship rounds.
Out of shape, unmotivated Ruiz: Ortiz drops and stops him prior to the late rounds.
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Originally posted by landotter View Post
I mean.... that is logic hard to argue with.
One of these men lives to get future paydays and one becomes a sideshow gate keeper. To me, it boils down to Ruiz. An in shape Ruiz wins this going away. He is quicker with way more tools in his war chest than Ortiz has at this stage. But Ortiz WILL come in at the best shape he can be. Ortiz will train hard. So if Ruiz is just coasting and is not in love with boxing anymore, I bet Ortiz scores a couple of knockdowns and gets the win.
In shape Ruiz: Easy UD, possible KO in the championship rounds.
Out of shape, unmotivated Ruiz: Ortiz drops and stops him prior to the late rounds.
Had Ruiz defeated A.J a second time the forum would have stuck to its original thoughts that Ruiz was to big for A.J , most were saying he’s got the fight after the weigh in and many had to backtrack on here because A.J out boxed him where posters were boasting he couldn’t do it .
I’ve never seen unmotivated Ruiz or Ortiz show up . I think both guys most likely over train ,in Ortiz case he probably needs to back it up a bit slow down the intensity at his age and Ruiz weight loss last fight didn’t go over so good . You can frustrate Ruiz much easier getting him to rush shots more but Ortiz is more susceptible to being stopped. I’d take Ruiz even though he tried getting out of it multiple times which is a red flag . I don’t see a reason why Ruiz wouldn’t think he could win ?Last edited by REDEEMER; 04-16-2022, 07:01 AM.landotter likes this.
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Triller should just partner with the mortal remains of Don King. Announcements for trash fights that are walked back 24 hours later is so on brandMario040481 likes this.
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Originally posted by Boxing2695 View Post
That's not Andy's style he doesn't fight on the Backfoot he's a front foot fighter with quick hands and that's his style and If that means hes in the line of fire then it is what it but he will stand with and exchange with Ortiz you can bet you're house on that
Besides, Andy Ruiz did not fight off the front foot against Arreola after being dropped by him. He boxed off the back foot in order to coast to victory in that fight.
So if Ruiz does decide to get in a firefight with 'King Kong' then he would do so at his own peril. Remember when Luis was getting his ass handed to him by Charles Martin what bailed him out was his power.Last edited by champion4ever; 04-16-2022, 12:07 PM.Fact likes this.
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