Isn't this the same guy that "passed" on an opportunity to fight a final eliminator to be ibf mandatory?
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Originally posted by PeepeePoopooMan View PostOrtiz needs to stop acting self entitled. Haymon should just use him for a stepping stone for one of his up cand coming h.wslandotter likes this.
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Originally posted by famicommander View PostOrtiz is a lose-lose situation.
He's popped for PEDs before and is always a risk of doing it again.
If you fight him and beat him, nobody will give you credit because he's fat and old.
If you fight him and lose, again, you just lost to a fat old man.
He doesn't speak English, he's Cuban and not Mexican or Puerto Rican so he can't tap into a preexisting nationwide fanbase, he's low reward, and on top of that he's a tricky southpaw with great technical skill and one punch KO power.
Take short money to fight a fat old man that might pop for PEDs, might knock your head into the fifth row, might outbox you and make you look like a clown, and won't do much for your career even if you beat him? Not hard to see why he can't get fights.Castilo
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Originally posted by super-x View Post
He needs to get his team in order as it was them that blew his hope of that $6mil payday to step in on 5 week notice vs Joshua. That was his golden opportunity. They blew it. That was his once in lifetime opportunity at that kind of money.Castilo likes this.
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Originally posted by maguirre View PostDon't really know what PBC is doing with their fighters. Doesn't this fall on their responsibility? They signed him, they promised him the moon and the stars. Fed him with a long line of bums. Team Ortiz was in heaven, they liked it. But then PBC ran out of bums to feed. What now? PBC basically have abandoned him. Nobody knows what's next for the aging guy.
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Well he had a chance to fight Hrgovic in a IBF final eliminator. He is the IBF #2 i believe & instead waited around for Ruiz now Zhang gets his shot. Ortiz hasn’t helped himself much the last few years. On the other hand Ruiz has absolutely no business fighting Spong as a former unified HW champion. Arreola was the minimum type of fighter at this point. Forrest or Wach at the very least. I don’t see how he would not fight Ortiz. A decent scalp on the resume even at 43. I don’t know what Ruiz is doing. Someone made some good points about Ortiz but at 43 I doubt he would last the distance against Ruiz. Ortiz has had terrible advise the last 5 years…Castilo likes this.
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The HW division is the only one that needs a cross atlantic partnership. America has been trotting the same HWs for the last five years and so has the U.K. Just think if Hearn in 2018, instead of coming to the U.S. with DAZN, he came like Frank Warren and made a deal with Al. Instead of disparaging Showtime he made chummy with Espinoza and did business with him instead. Can you imagine Matchroom and PBC HWs fighting on FOX, Showtime and Sky Sports? Now that DAZN is considered to be a complete and utter failure I'm sure Hearn is having second thoughts.Castilo likes this.
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Originally posted by Sid-Knee View PostOrtiz has had many opportunities offered his way, but ran from them all and decided to lie to people instead. Only idiots with an agenda believed any of this nonsense however.Castilo likes this.
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Imagine if Al Haymon had let Wilder go to the UK to fight in a stadium :-( that could have caught the world's attention.
Haymon demanded home advantage for Wilder three times in a row for Fury when he thought Fury was a recovering junkie:-( PBC .. the cancer of boxing ... we'd have had Joshua Wilder and Spence Crawford without Al's intervention :-(
Still looks like Ruiz going to Triller is another nail in the PBC coffin , hopefully the remaining promotions can work together. Maybe ESPN will buy out PBC and Al can take his orders from Bob.
Sad what the PBC and its fan boys did to boxing shame they wouldn't work with others.
Originally posted by DClefthook View PostThe HW division is the only one that needs a cross atlantic partnership. America has been trotting the same HWs for the last five years and so has the U.K. Just think if Hearn in 2018, instead of coming to the U.S. with DAZN, he came like Frank Warren and made a deal with Al. Instead of disparaging Showtime he made chummy with Espinoza and did business with him instead. Can you imagine Matchroom and PBC HWs fighting on FOX, Showtime and Sky Sports? Now that DAZN is considered to be a complete and utter failure I'm sure Hearn is having second thoughts.
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