Bivol or Beterbiev? Who gives Canelo the tougher fight and why?

[MulaKO]

Its just glancing, getting feelings hurt over fact based questions then waffling about Christ knows what from fighters who have nothing to do with anything through to a load of incorrect assumptions, a common theme on here these days. Like I am sure your lifes not that busy you can't spare 30 seconds to read.

It was nothing but a fair question you have one guy who has faced punchers and better quality operators and never been down but he apparently has a questionable chin but at the same time they're sold on a guys chin who has been dropped multiple times by non-punchers and awful fighters really. It doesn't make sense at least not to me it don't.

Tbh I don't care if Canelo or Bivol himself rates him at #2
Bivol is more skilled, he has a better and deeper resume and beaten better fighters. He hasn't been dropped at all let alone to umpteen crap fighters neither has he been outboxed for large spells by journeymen either.
I don't care for rankings he is clearly the #1 until proven otherwise.

TLDR?

I respect your opinion , I just don’t agree with it
And I find much of what you say amusing
Big fughin deal he’s been knocked down
The guy got up and knocked out his opponents
Then you say he can’t box but Usyk says it was one of his hardest fights , I guess Usyk can’t fight either
A prime Kovi had a hard time Boxing Artur , I guess you don’t think much of Kovi either
Cloud , Campillo , Johnson and Browne all good boxers who can turn a fight with one punch all lost
Won’t even get into Gvodyzk

[dan_cov]

I respect your opinion , I just don’t agree with it
And I find much of what you say amusing
Big fughin deal he’s been knocked down
The guy got up and knocked out his opponents
Then you say he can’t box but Usyk says it was one of his hardest fights , I guess Usyk can’t fight either
A prime Kovi had a hard time Boxing Artur , I guess you don’t think much of Kovi either
Cloud , Campillo , Johnson and Browne all good boxers who can turn a fight with one punch all lost
Won’t even get into Gvodyzk

His resume is so bad that we have to go back to 12-15yrs ago when he was an amateur. It doesn't mean anything today, may as well be including fights from high school. Beterbiev was probably like a grown man aged 12 & capable of squatting 400+ lbs for reps

I do not rate these opponents at all.
Cloud is awful just awful, terrible fighter, Campillo a journeyman, Johnson - We assume is decent because he clocked Beterbiev he has literally beaten nobody and looked horrendous in his last outing.
Browne is a fringe contender type who got his butt kicked by a really past prime, 43 I want to say yr old Pascal who for me was never elite in the first place. The same Pascal that Bivol toyed with and made him look like he'd never boxed a day in his life.
Gvodyzk - Good boxer albeit rather unproven at least imo and if we are honest he had one foot out the door and his only noteworthy win was to a very good fighter but a 41yr old, past prime Stevenson.

The LHW division has been in a very bad place for years, the best not fighting the best and these top LHWs being overly praised for beating 2nd/3rd tier opposition.

And don't get me wrong I don't feel Bivols resume is amazing either I just simply do not rate guys like Joe Smith Jr & the likes. 3rd tier guys overachieving because of a total lack of depth in the division.

[dan_cov]

To me its hard to even get a real gauge on them its like BJS (pre Canelo), Andrade, Eubank Jr, Charlo etc down at MW its anyones guess how good they are or who is the best or whatever as we haven't much evidence to go on.
They won't fight each other and all we have to go on is them looking either great or really flat vs 3rd string opposition.

Its total guesswork on eye-test and we're just guessing whether or not they're fighting down to their oppositions level or not.

Beating Cloud, Campillo etc at the tail end of their careers doesn't tell me anything other than they need to step it up fight live bodies.

[Madison Boxing]

beterbiev is a much better fighter than bivol... who has bivol actually beat as a pro? what did he ever win as an amateur? and dont start calling me a hater or deflecting, just answer the questions...

[VG_Addict]

When your fans have to bring up your amateur fights to prove how good you are, that's sad.

Beterbiev gave Usyk his hardest fight in the amateurs? Since when do amateur wins mean anything? I don't think there's any question who the more skilled fighter between them is, looking at their pro careers.

[VG_Addict]

beterbiev is a much better fighter than bivol... who has bivol actually beat as a pro? what did he ever win as an amateur? and dont start calling me a hater or deflecting, just answer the questions...

What did Beterbiev win as an amateur? Golovkin won a silver medal at the Olympics, and Usyk won a gold medal.

[Madison Boxing]

What did Beterbiev win as an amateur? Golovkin won a silver medal at the Olympics, and Usyk won a gold medal.

why does everyone always answer a question with a question on here....

[CaneloBlue]

Beterbiev gets torn up against Canelo. Canelo takes him out in the later rounds. Body shots will be the death of him.

[TheSlickster]

beterbiev is a much better fighter than bivol... who has bivol actually beat as a pro? what did he ever win as an amateur? and dont start calling me a hater or deflecting, just answer the questions...

Dominated Pascal(only Kovalev has) and Joe Smith Jr(No one else has yet) who both later had unexpected wins(Marcus Browne and Eleider Alvarez) respectively.

[Madison Boxing]

Dominated Pascal(only Kovalev has) and Joe Smith Jr(No one else has yet) who both later had unexpected wins(Marcus Browne and Eleider Alvarez) respectively.

i dont think them guys are anything special but at least you answered the question....