Has Canelo Surpassed Julio Cesar Chavez Yet ?

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I give names but can't get names in return

We all know why

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Canelo is as elusive as Whitaker? That is the single dumbest ******** thing I’ve ever read.

Nelo's game isn't being elusive.
It's great that he can be vs high level opponents.

Nelo made GGG look like an amateur in those situations.

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This is a ridiculously early call. Alvarez needs to face and defeat more of his top ranked contemporaries, not just rack up wins against weak champions in heavier weight divisions.

How many did Sr face and beat ?!?!?

I have asked many times, no replies

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Whitaker's defense was based on two things. Slipping punches at his back foot and ducking punches below waistline level which is actually illegal. Referees don't give a f**k about that illegal movement but Whitaker did it in every fight. He had ATG defensive skills though. At least, he exposed cab driver killer Chavez.

So Lockridge, Ramirez, Taylor, Haugen, Camacho, Rosario, LaPorte and R Mayweather are “cab drivers”?

More ignorance from NSBs village idiot.

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Whitaker
Randall 1
IIRC Lockridge

Now, name his wins that impressed you the most

The Whitaker fight was scored a draw so despite the garbage score cards, that isn’t a gift W for Chavez.

Randall won the first fight so how does that equate into a gift W for Chavez? It doesn’t.

The Lockridge fight was indeed close but most scored for Chavez so no not a gift W for Chavez.

You’re 0 for 3 so far. What else ya got?

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Whitaker
Randall 1
IIRC Lockridge

Now, name his wins that impressed you the most

His wins that impressed me most? Camacho. Hector was the favorite in this fight but Chavez nullified his speed and flat out beat him up.
The Taylor fight. He was far behind on the cards but was never discouraged and rose to the challenge and got the stoppage.

The Rosario fight. That version of Chapo was a damned good fighter and a murderous puncher. Rosario landed a huge right hand in the second that didn’t faze Chavez granite chin one bit. I think at that point the wind went out of Rosario’s sails and Chavez flat out beat him up too.

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So Lockridge, Ramirez, Taylor, Haugen, Camacho, Rosario, LaPorte and R Mayweather are “cab drivers”?

More ignorance from NSBs village idiot.

Camacho and Rosario are legit
JLR was kinda long in the tooth but legit
Taylor was a Hail Mary -
''Going into the final round, Taylor held a secure lead on the scorecards of two of the three judges, (Dave Moretti and Jerry Roth had the score 107-102 and 108-101 respectively for Taylor, while Chuck Giampa had Chávez ahead 105-104), and the sense for everyone watching was that Chávez would have to knock Taylor out.''

Rog was a compiler...losing to every ''tough'' guy, beating the lower level guys.
Juan La, besides KO'ing Rocky....what else is there ?
Haugen

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His wins that impressed me most? Camacho. Hector was the favorite in this fight but Chavez nullified his speed and flat out beat him up.
The Taylor fight. He was far behind on the cards but was never discouraged and rose to the challenge and got the stoppage.

The Rosario fight. That version of Chapo was a damned good fighter and a murderous puncher. Rosario landed a huge right hand in the second that didn’t faze Chavez granite chin one bit. I think at that point the wind went out of Rosario’s sails and Chavez flat out beat him up too.

So, the fights that I mentioned.

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IMHO, Nelo has faced more higher level opponents, but I'm willing to wait until he retires to see how it unfolds.

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Couldn't get any worse.

Imagine some other fighter who feasted on such opponents for so long and being loved

So it can’t get worse than Lockridge, LaPorte, R Mayweather 2x, Haugen, Ramirez, Rosario, Camacho, T Lopez, etc?

You’re smarter than that…….

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So it can’t get worse than Lockridge, LaPorte, R Mayweather 2x, Haugen, Ramirez, Rosario, Camacho, T Lopez, etc?

You’re smarter than that…….

Sigh

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