Has Canelo Surpassed Julio Cesar Chavez Yet ?

[Silence]

Wow, what a cheeky and defensive , and challenging confronational reply.
Pac is oldest ww champ and only 3 time WW champ, he stopped cott o when nelo couldnt, this is otherwordly. And yes 8 division champ amongst other things. But Pac don't need other things.

So? Fighters don't need to beat everyone by KO to become great. On the other hand, Canelo vs Cotto fight was much more technical from both sides. One of my favourites in 2010s. Canelo was like in Matrix in the middle of the ring.

[hugh grant]

So? Fighters don't need to beat everyone by KO to become great. On the other hand, Canelo vs Cotto fight was much more technical from both sides. One of my favourites in 2010s. Canelo was like in Matrix in the middle of the ring.

True, but historians of boxing will take note of things and details like this. A former lightflyweight stopping who will historically be considered a solid W w in cotto, which cotto is.And Nell couldn't stop pac s used goods who Pac softened up for nelo.
historians will conclude pac is great from it whether pac likes it or not. If pac don't want to be great he shouldn't be overachieving and doing things like that.
but this thread isn't about pac, I will get told off soon by just the facts.

[Silence]

True, but historians of boxing will take note of things and details like this. A former lightflyweight stopping who will historically be considered a solid W w in cotto, which cotto is.And Nell couldn't stop pac s used goods who Pac softened up for nelo.
historians will conclude pac is great from it whether pac likes it or not. If pac don't want to be great he shouldn't be overachieving and doing things like that.
but this thread isn't about pac, I will get told off soon by just the facts.

Pac is already great. I rank him higher than Fluidweather personally. He is top 10 p4p ever in my list. But, historians will also appreciate Canelo's fundamental skills. Pac bullied and destroyed him despite being "smaller man". Canelo went with him skill for skill despite being "larger man". Two different greatness type.
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[Joe Grizzley]

Chavez will always have more cab drivers under his belt.

[eco1]

Has Canelo done enough to be considered a better fighter all time than Julio Cesar Chavez?

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[BodyBagz]

If he fought the guys in their prime then you would be correct

May haters don't want to post the names they hate besides Berto and some exhibition match

Berto that May beat > Rios, Vargas, DHL*, Broner, Clottey...HORN !!!!

So there's that

[BodyBagz]

Wow.......you got me again .

If an opponent is so special, name them

8 div bum finder

[BodyBagz]

Chavez will always have more cab drivers under his belt.

100+ W's, less than 7 legit opponents

[elfag]

let canelo be undisputed at 175 first then we can have this conversation again, no need to rush anything, canelo still has time to achieve more...

canelo already won titles in 4 divisions. Chavez only 3 with multiple gift wins in his biggest fights. Canelo now got to be undisputed in his 4th division when chavez was getting gift wins in his 3rd?

Chavez was unable to convincingly prove he was the best junior welter in his prime. Canelo is over here cleaning out divisions. Whatever canelo is fighting one of the top 2 bogymen of 175.

[saopaulo]

he is tied with JR for being the biggest tard in boxing.