Has Canelo Surpassed Julio Cesar Chavez Yet ?

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I saw the Ramirez fight and it was a robbery. Then again, he was robbed against Arguello, rip, so in a weird way he was do.

Ring generalship and aggression are effective on judges. No one could use Whitaker as a punching bag "in the history". Like I said, he used illegal moves in all fights. Whitaker could give to everyone close fight and make everyone look bad.

[just the facts]

Ramirez and De La Hoya: Wut?

You’ve never watched any of those fights or you wouldn’t make ignorant posts like this. Ramirez never landed anything of note in either fight (first fight was one of the worst boxing decisions in history and the other was a complete thrashing by Whitaker) and Oscar didn’t really either and that fight was almost 5 years after Whitaker/Chavez Sr and a lot of people thought Whitaker deserved the decision. Epic fail on your part

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Pac beat 3 of the greatest top 10 mexicans ever though.

I know Pac’s spoog is leaking out of the corner of your mouth but this thread isn’t about him. Try to keep up. Read slowly if you need to.

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Considering that Canelo is as elusive as Whitaker "when he wants to", it's normal for Lil G to miss more than 1,000 punches.

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Canelo is as elusive as Whitaker? That is the single dumbest ******** thing I’ve ever read.

[VG_Addict]

Floyd > Frankie randall

Floyd would have 12-0'd Randall.

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Canelo is as elusive as Whitaker? That is the single dumbest ******** thing I’ve ever read.

And, you're the single dumbest f**king thing I've ever quote. Canelo uses his defensive skills in all range. Long range, middle range or close range. He doesn't need to run like Whitaker. He is in front of you and stand like a statue. You can't still touch him except pitty patty jabs. Canelo, Locche and Toney are their own level.

[El Más Loco]

In terms of money and titles (which have been devalued in todays era), yes. In terms of signature wins, level of opponents, and adoration by the Mexican fans......not even close.

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Ring generalship and aggression are effective on judges. No one could use Whitaker as a punching bag "in the history". Like I said, he used illegal moves in all fights. Whitaker could give to everyone close fight and make everyone look bad.

Ramirez was a flat-footed fighter. Great chin, resistance and punching power. Boxers like Whittaker and Camacho made him look silky.

[Nash out]

Not until he beats 50 cab drivers and debutants, as apparently that is the key to greatness. Nash out.

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And, you're the single dumbest f**king thing I've ever quote. Canelo uses his defensive skills in all range. Long range, middle range or close range. He doesn't need to run like Whitaker. He is in front of you and stand like a statue. You can't still touch him except pitty patty jabs. Canelo, Locche and Toney are their own level.

More ignorance from a moron. If you ever actually watched Whitaker fight (obviously you haven’t) you would plainly see that he wasn’t a runner. He stood in the pocket and his defensive skills were that good. Say nothing about Locche or Toney, it’s highly doubtful you’ve ever actually watched them fight either.

Canelo is as elusive as Whitaker is still the single dumbest ******** thing I’ve ever read. I realize Canelo is the center of your universe but that’s plain ******.