Josh Taylor Should Not be Judged Just Off His Performance From Yesterday But.........

[The Big Dunn]

I’m hoping his performance put blood in the water and attracts Tank to finally get his poozie out of his ass and fight him.

Did you see the post fight press conference?

Josh and Bob said they he’s going to 147. Which means the call out of Tank early in the week was just PR bullish-t.

Of course guys like you that hate Haymon, Floyd and Tank blame them when clearly Josh and Arum are up to the usual TR media BS.

Floyd said in house fights ages ago. Nothing much from Josh. Soon as he has a title defense and need a to drum up attention knowing he is about to go up to 147 m, he makes a big deal about Tank.

Tank had had 1 fight at 140. Since when do you think a guy that has 1 fight at a weight then deserves a shot at the undisputed title?

[Get em up]

I'm not really sure I see him beating or coming close to beating the likes of Crawford, Spence, Ennis, Ortiz at WW. Taylor has had a very good run at 140 and yesterday was a poor performance but he's done enough work to get a pass. I think he was probably a bit drained and just didn't have the best of camps that led to that performance....But how do you guys see him faring at WW? Taylor was a HUGE 140 pounder and used that to his advantage but he's not going to be able to bully the names I listed. Those guys are also naturally big guys themselves. I just don't think Taylor's defense is good enough to win decisions against fighters who are equally as skilled and just as big as him. Taylor also does not jab nearly enough so that right there is a big issue since he won't just be able to physically impose his will on the inside.

He's a top 10 P4P fighter but top 5? I don't think so and at WW he may not even be top 5. What do you guys think?

I'm giving him a pass based solely off the fact some fighters under perform at home. The fact he had the run he did to get the titles says alot but I agree he wont get by with eating the shots he is subject to taking at a high level at welterweight.

[Get em up]

Did you see the post fight press conference?

Josh and Bob said they he’s going to 147. Which means the call out of Tank early in the week was just PR bullish-t.

Of course guys like you that hate Haymon, Floyd and Tank blame them when clearly Josh and Arum are up to the usual TR media BS.

Floyd said in house fights ages ago. Nothing much from Josh. Soon as he has a title defense and need a to drum up attention knowing he is about to go up to 147 m, he makes a big deal about Tank.

Tank had had 1 fight at 140. Since when do you think a guy that has 1 fight at a weight then deserves a shot at the undisputed title?

I'd pick Tank to beat him at 140. The shots he kept getting caught with would end in a ko if that was Tank.

[STREET CLEANER]

Taylor is a good fighter and goes to another gear when he has to turn it up. In the meantime he will get hit and loose some rounds. He lost the last fight no matter what excuse but he can't be simply written off. A great asset of any fighter is to do multiple adjustments in a fight and have the ability to do it. He has shown that he can. His next fight no matter what weight will be very telling. Taylor does not have many fights and his resume is good.

[deathofaclown]

He can be judged on it, it was a poor performance and he seemed to have regressed in areas of his game.

could be the weight.

could be the fact he overlooked Catterall. I remember Paulie saying when you overlook an opponent and you get in the Ring and it’s more difficult than you realise, it’s extremely difficult to reset your mind to have the mentality you need by that point.

I think a factor is that he has been with Ben Davison a while longer now and what he’s doing with him is actually taking away from a lot of his best attributes.

Probably a mixture of things. He is really good and his resume before Saturday proves it, but he’s not beating any more top fighters unless he addresses what the problem was. He has the talent.

Who knows, Maybe the fact he fought good opponents one after another for the most part for the past few years is catching up. Apart from that one mandatory against the Thai guy, he’s never really had keep busy easy fights. It can take its toll on some fighters quicker than others. Training camps, intense good level fights, injuries etc. it can soon catch up on you. He’s 31, not old, but fighters have regressed quickly at that age before and younger.

[The Big Dunn]

I'd pick Tank to beat him at 140. The shots he kept getting caught with would end in a ko if that was Tank.

Fair point. I just found it phony to call Tank out knowing you’re going to 147 after this fight.

Also found it interesting that now some media people are saying his performance was so bad that he will not fight Crawford next.

Wonder if Crawford suddenly “resolves” the lawsuit to re sign with TR to fight Taylor?

[JakeTheBoxer]

He is what he is. he is the same level as Prograis and clearly better than Ramirez.

But Crawford knocks his head off.

[KTFOKING]

I'm giving him a pass based solely off the fact some fighters under perform at home. The fact he had the run he did to get the titles says alot but I agree he wont get by with eating the shots he is subject to taking at a high level at welterweight.

And like he has wins over Postol, Ramirez, Prograis etc so we have seen him perform at a high level before.

Also, he battled Covid at one point and had a knee injury a little while ago so who knows how well his camp went.

Saying all that, I just don't think he's good enough defensively and will be strong enough to manhandle the top guys on the inside like he does at 140 to beat them.

[KTFOKING]

He can be judged on it, it was a poor performance and he seemed to have regressed in areas of his game.

could be the weight.

could be the fact he overlooked Catterall. I remember Paulie saying when you overlook an opponent and you get in the Ring and it’s more difficult than you realise, it’s extremely difficult to reset your mind to have the mentality you need by that point.

I think a factor is that he has been with Ben Davison a while longer now and what he’s doing with him is actually taking away from a lot of his best attributes.

Probably a mixture of things. He is really good and his resume before Saturday proves it, but he’s not beating any more top fighters unless he addresses what the problem was. He has the talent.

Who knows, Maybe the fact he fought good opponents one after another for the most part for the past few years is catching up. Apart from that one mandatory against the Thai guy, he’s never really had keep busy easy fights. It can take its toll on some fighters quicker than others. Training camps, intense good level fights, injuries etc. it can soon catch up on you. He’s 31, not old, but fighters have regressed quickly at that age before and younger.

The thing is he's always had flaws even before Saturday. Watch the Prograis fight and see how much he was getting tagged with CLEAN shots, especially towards the end of the fight. Postol was all but even with him until the end and then while Taylor legitimately beat Ramirez but he didn't look great towards the end and was once again eating some big shots. Taylor is clearly skilled and versatile on the inside but no doubt he has taken advantage of his big size advantage against the 140 pounders. I remember Robert Garcia saying he couldn't believe how much bigger Taylor looked against Ramirez.

He needs to sharpen up his defense and needs to stop being over anxious against good defensive fighters. Taylor will be alright but his biggest issue will be dealing with the top WWs who are very very good.

[Tatabanya]

So Taylor is going to 147 now? What a quick turnaround...

https://www.boxingscene.com/josh-taylor-i-make-weight-piece-cake-really-my-whole-career-140-if-i-wanted--164326