Why is the lightweight division so polarizing?

[PBR Streetgang]

Stop it bro. Loma avoided the fight because haney is bigger, faster, longer reach, as if not more athletic. And is a high risk, low reward opponent.

That is why none of the other top guys including Kambosis will fight him. If you don’t like Haney, cool. But let’s stop pretending all these top guys will just walk through him.

Stop with the excuses.

My guess is Kambosos would fight him but that probably wasn't the most lucrative deal. I don't think the Aussie fighter is a monster but he doesn't lack self confidence in himself. Despite that confidence, I think Kambosos probably loses to either Loma or Haney.

I do think Haney is very good and I'd agree that he's high risk with little reward but at the same time, he's still the dude who went bambi-legged with Linares.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

But let’s stop pretending all these top guys will just walk through him.

NGL man, I think most of them possibly do walk through him. I think Loma, Teofimo and Tank stop him. I think Garcia potentially stops him too. I actually do think Haney beats Kambosos though, I think that’s a bad stylistic matchup for George.

Haney is pretty flawed IMO, his defence is leaky and he looks very uncomfortable whenever he gets hit. I think that’s a major red flag.

Not saying I would be against them fights happening or anything, cause Haney has proved himself a legitimate top 5 guy with the two top 10 wins over Diaz and Linares.

His greatest assets are his athleticism and length but a top level fighter will adapt to that. It’s like Canelo vs Plant. Plant had the majority of athletic advantages but Canelo took them all away.

[Toffee]

Kambosos seems like the good guy out of the group... but it's easy to appear willing when you're the challenger.

It's just a division with a lot of top talent across different ages. Everyone will have an opinion as to who ducked who. Every opinion will be as uninformed as the next.

The only constant seems to be how people see Garcia. That guy could have been huge... but he seems to have given up on credibility.

[The Big Dunn]

My guess is Kambosos would fight him but that probably wasn't the most lucrative deal. I don't think the Aussie fighter is a monster but he doesn't lack self confidence in himself. Despite that confidence, I think Kambosos probably loses to either Loma or Haney.

I do think Haney is very good and I'd agree that he's high risk with little reward but at the same time, he's still the dude who went bambi-legged with Linares.

Ok, I can understand the financial aspect. That said, he could unify the belts.

Linares-here’s what I don’t get and maybe you can help me. Haney dominated that fight for 9 rounds. He won the fight by a waive margin. Yet all people remember and judge him on is almost getting ktfo and surviving that shot.

Why not judge him by the first 9 rounds, not the 1 round?

[The Big Dunn]

NGL man, I think most of them possibly do walk through him. I think Loma, Teofimo and Tank stop him. I think Garcia potentially stops him too. I actually do think Haney beats Kambosos though, I think that’s a bad stylistic matchup for George.

Haney is pretty flawed IMO, his defence is leaky and he looks very uncomfortable whenever he gets hit. I think that’s a major red flag.

Not saying I would be against them fights happening or anything, cause Haney has proved himself a legitimate top 5 guy with the two top 10 wins over Diaz and Linares.

His greatest assets are his athleticism and length but a top level fighter will adapt to that. It’s like Canelo vs Plant. Plant had the majority of athletic advantages but Canelo took them all away.

I’m fine if you think that but my point is the fact none are even thinking about fighting him suggests otherwise.

Yes but none of the LW’s are on Canelo’s level, not even Loma. His athleticism and length provide distinct problems for all of the top LW’s.

[Dakuwaqa]

I’m with you I like all the top guys and I think it’s great that they’re all young with bags of talent.

[PBR Streetgang]

Haney dominated that fight for 9 rounds. He won the fight by a waive margin. Yet all people remember and judge him on is almost getting ktfo and surviving that shot.

Why not judge him by the first 9 rounds, not the 1 round?

I think this is a pretty easy one to answer.

1) People don't like him. Maybe it's because they think he's too confident or arrogant. Maybe it's his dad. Maybe he reminds them of Mayweather.

2) The other thing about Haney is that he's a highly skilled, defensively minded fighter who isn't heavy handed. For most people that's not exciting, it's frustrating.

Haney handily won most rounds but they were uneventful because of his skill sets and the nature of how he fights. People will always undervalue skilled, defensive minded boxers, they will always over value heavy handed offensive-minded fighters.

It's the reason why Chico had nearly even odds heading into his showdown with Floyd Mayweather.its why people thought Kovalev was going to crush Ward. It's why people (myself included) still talk about Julian Letterlough and why James Kirkland stayed relevant.

[hhh1200]

Canelo vs Plant. Plant had the majority of athletic advantages but Canelo took them all away.

Andrade would have given you a better assessment of athleticism vs. Canelo's style. That's why Canelo fought plant for undisputed 168 vs Andrade 160 when they were literally on the same network.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Andrade would have given you a better assessment of athleticism vs. Canelo's style. That's why Canelo fought plant for undisputed 168 vs Andrade 160 when they were literally on the same network.

Canelo annihilates Andrade IMO. I don’t think that’s a tough fight for him whatsoever tbh.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I’m fine if you think that but my point is the fact none are even thinking about fighting him suggests otherwise.

Yes but none of the LW’s are on Canelo’s level, not even Loma. His athleticism and length provide distinct problems for all of the top LW’s.

I just used Canelo as an example, point is length and athleticism will only get you that far against better opposition.

I don’t buy into this notion that Haney is being avoided based on ability at all, it’s purely financial, Hearn is just ******ly over paying him. That’s why the Kambosos fight is likely going to Loma, he was willing to take less money..