How many prime, all time greats did Floyd beat

[madsweeney]

Mosley also had another * lowkey. Dude was coming down from 154.

Lets not forget Mosley was 38 (4 months shy of 39) coming off a nearly 1.5 year lay-off and back to back camps due to Berto pulling out. Its a paper achievement but Mosley was no where near his peak at that point (moreso when Pac fought a year later)

[madsweeney]

Does jmm win count? Floyd did bloat him up though. Like if nel o bloated bud up would it be great win?
Floyd fans don't half go on about jmm win though!

Bloated him up AND didn't make weight.

[madsweeney]

Listen, we've had this conversation before sir. It's a fact that Canelo and Mayweather had approximately the same amount of professional boxing experience. Floyd had 44 prizefights to Canelo's 43 prizefights.going into their bout.

It just so happens that Canelo developed a lot faster than Mayweather as an amateur fighter. By the age of 15 years old Alvarez had already begun beating up grown ass men as a professional prizefighter. While Money May was still yet developing and honing his skills as an amateur fighter at that age. Therefore, Canelo had the advantage when they fought.

Hence, he should have kicked Floyd Money Mayweather's 36 year old ass while he was the much younger and fresher fighter of the two. Lastly, by 1999; Mayweather was still a Super featherweight at a 130 lbs at the time. So how in the hell was he supposed to fight De La Hoya, Tszyu, Whitaker and Trinidad who were all welterweights then; By jumping up three weight divisions?

He had just recently won his first World title in a little less than a year prior to that time in October of 1998

BS, equal number of fights does not mean equal quality or experience. Mayweather was criticized leading up to the fight due to Canelo's "tomato can" padded record. He had not fought anyone at HOF level, let alone an ATG like Floyd....and there's still the catchweight.

[hugh grant]

Bloated him up AND didn't make weight.

Yes, I know it wasn't a great win really but Floyd fans can't call me a hater I'm trying to help Floyd out at least.
But in a similar thread about who's better between nel o and floyd, floyd fans are boasting about pfp fighters Floyd beat and they're boasting about Floyd's win over jmm

[VG_Addict]

Imagine if Floyd fought and beat Casamayor at 130, Dorin at 135 to unify the WBA and WBC belts, Tszyu at 140, then beat Bradley in 2012, Pacquiao and Canelo without a catchweight in 2013, and Thurman and Porter/Brook in 2014.

Where would you rank him all time?

[djtmal]

Yes, I know it wasn't a great win really but Floyd fans can't call me a hater I'm trying to help Floyd out at least.
But in a similar thread about who's better between nel o and floyd, floyd fans are boasting about pfp fighters Floyd beat and they're boasting about Floyd's win over jmm

Really thats all that matters in Floyd Boy world...

Shane, Cotto, Manny, even Gatti and Oscar. They were all shopworn fighters by the time Floyd fought them.

In Floyd boy world, as long as you can wheelchair them into the ring, they will give him full credit.

[Boxing-1013]

People act like ATG fighters come every other year lol. Better question would be how many ATG fighters in their prime were available and viable to fight at or near his weight class? But this is trolling so I'm not expecting genuine conversation to come from this.

I'd be fine with that argument if Floyd fans were consistent with it as far as applying it to other fighters. But they don't seem to do that.

[Gary Coleman]

There’s not a lot of ATG’s around otherwise they wouldn’t be ATG’s. Pac turned down a fight in 09, 10. He never really had an opportunity other than that. Canelo but some would say he wasn’t in his prime at 23. However Floyd was already a complete fighter at 23. That just shows the difference between a great fighter like Canelo and an ATG like Floyd.

The perfect response.

[Gary Coleman]

May had size advantages at WW ?

Pac's resume is smoke and mirrors. Maybe 3 quality opponents. Opponents that PBF/May would make easy work of. With that soft resume, Pac should only have 1 loss

People hold Barerra, Morales and Marquez in extremely high regard.

Floyd would dominate Marco and Eric the same, if not worse than he did Juan.

[kushking]

What all-time greats really wanted to face Floyd Mayweather at his peak? What makes a all-time great fighter? For me it is a champion, who has made multiple defenses against other world class to elite level fighters. Fighters like Roy Jones Junior, Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao are a level above all-time greats.

Very rarely do two all time greats at their peak face off. The fights most of the time, happens somewhere down the line.

When Mike Tyson fought Holyfield, neither of them were at their peak.

Mayweather was the more eroded fighter by the time he fought Pacquiao, he beat Pacquiao with very little physicality just skill 'Mayweather had always been a extremely strong fighter physically, but that aspect of his game has decreased by that stage'.

If you apply this standard for Floyd you have to apply it to everyone,but I agree completely that it shouldn't matter if an opponent wasn't at there all time best(because most fighters last only a very short window in that state,in many cases only in ppls mind because someone had 1 legendary performance & a bunch of cans,& they will remember it like they were god himself based on that tiny window.

I rate it as,was the fighter a champion coming off big wins/was rated top 1-3 in division,& if so he should be construed as a good to great win depending on how much of a challenge the opponent was considered.

(if a fighter goes up in weight that should get you extra pts legacy wise,if the opponent is at a natural disadvantage thdn that should cost you pts legacy wise.)