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  • #41
    Originally posted by VG_Addict View Post
    Who cares? It's not his fault there weren't many prime ATGs around when he fought. Floyd still has a great resume.

    Pacquiao
    Cotto
    Canelo
    Corrales
    Hatton
    De La Hoya
    Marquez
    Judah
    Hernandez

    Name me a fighter in the past 15 years with a better resume. I'll wait.
    Who cares is the stock answer when it comes to Floyd but since the beginning the all time greats prior to him were judged solely by this criteria. How many prime all time greats were beaten

    Its a reason Floyd beat all those guys but barely cracks top 30 on most all time great lists.
    Last edited by djtmal; 01-26-2022, 12:41 PM.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
      Pac's (AKA CW King) claim to #3ATG fame

      Shot Clottey
      Cotto*
      Shot DLH*
      Shot Margarito*
      Shot Mosley
      Shot Rios
      Shot Algieri*
      Shot Broner
      Shot Lucas
      Needed 4 tries to do geezer JMM that only took May 1x (and Pac still couldn't get it done . His fans cried about not getting a 5th try)
      Battled with pillow puncher Desert Breeze 3x
      Faced another soft touch Vargas
      Got bullied and robbed by a part time special ed teacher (CPGW)

      No way in hell a mortal can survive that line up

      Pac earned his #3ATG status if a MFer lives in Imadumbfuqville (population - a bunch of ********)
      Mosley also had another * lowkey. Dude was coming down from 154.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by VG_Addict View Post
        Who cares? It's not his fault there weren't many prime ATGs around when he fought. Floyd still has a great resume.

        Pacquiao
        Cotto
        Canelo
        Corrales
        Hatton
        De La Hoya
        Marquez
        Judah
        Hernandez

        Name me a fighter in the past 15 years with a better resume. I'll wait.
        - - Sound over 10 years constipated now.

        Manny fought, beat, and KOed more Ring rated P4P fighters in history, and 2nd place ain't even close, like the year Babe Ruth hit more HR than any team in Baseball.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Murcielago View Post

          I want to know how Canelo was prime 1 month after turning 23.
          By amassing more than 44 professional prizefights to Mayweather's 45 professional prizefights. Regardless of age, Canelo had just as much ring experience as Floyd.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by VG_Addict View Post
            Who cares? It's not his fault there weren't many prime ATGs around when he fought. Floyd still has a great resume.

            Pacquiao
            Cotto
            Canelo
            Corrales
            Hatton
            De La Hoya
            Marquez
            Judah
            Hernandez

            Name me a fighter in the past 15 years with a better resume. I'll wait.
            Gayweather carefully picked his opponents

            Pacquiao - fought him 5/6 years too late, after being brutally KO'd by Marquez
            Cotto - Had already been KO'd by Margarito and Pac. Both beat him in more impressive manner.
            Canelo - Young, green
            Corrales - Corrales was going to go to jail, had that looming over his head before the fight.
            Hatton - Fought Hatton at 147 where he wasn't any good, Pac beat Hatton more impressively
            De La Hoya - DLH was robbed, Gayweather didn't want the rematch
            Marquez - Paid off Marquez to so Gayweather could have a weight advantage
            Judah - LMAO, Judah had literally just lost to Baldomir before he fought Fraud
            Hernandez - Hernandez was at the end of his career, not in his prime anymore.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by djtmal View Post

              Good wins but none of those guys were all time great fighters.
              What all-time greats really wanted to face Floyd Mayweather at his peak? What makes a all-time great fighter? For me it is a champion, who has made multiple defenses against other world class to elite level fighters. Fighters like Roy Jones Junior, Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao are a level above all-time greats.

              Very rarely do two all time greats at their peak face off. The fights most of the time, happens somewhere down the line.

              When Mike Tyson fought Holyfield, neither of them were at their peak.

              Mayweather was the more eroded fighter by the time he fought Pacquiao, he beat Pacquiao with very little physicality just skill 'Mayweather had always been a extremely strong fighter physically, but that aspect of his game has decreased by that stage'.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                By amassing more than 44 professional prizefights to Mayweather's 45 professional prizefights. Regardless of age, Canelo had just as much ring experience as Floyd.
                How can someone that's 22 have as much ring experience as a 36 year old? You adding in Gayweather's amateur experience as well? Canelo never had an amateur career, or at least one as extensive as Gayweather's. Gayweather had 92 amateur fights (some being international competing in the Olympics and medaling) and 44 pro fights to Canelo's very limited "amateur fights", before turning 15 years old. Canelo, who turned pro at 15, his first 22-25 pro fights are basically his amateur experience. All of them being in Mexico I might add.

                Canelo by the age of 22 was fighting Austin Trout and Gayweather.

                Gayweather at the age of 22 was fighting Carlos Rios (who?) and Justin Juuko. No way would Gayweather have fought 1999 versions of Tszyu, Whitaker, Mosley, De la Hoya or Trinidad. He didn't even wan to fight Paul Spadafora at the time, after Spadafora worked him in that sparring session.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                  By amassing more than 44 professional prizefights to Mayweather's 45 professional prizefights. Regardless of age, Canelo had just as much ring experience as Floyd.
                  Mayweather & Canelo fought in 2013, Mayweather had been fighting championship level fights since 1998, or about 15 years by the time he fought Canelo. Canelo had only been fighting higher level fighters since 2 years before. Include Mayweather's vast amateur experience. Tell me again just because they had the same number of fights, they had the same level of experience.

                  If I had gone to Mexico in 2012 and fought bums each weekend for a full year and come back with a record of 52-0, would that have meant I was as experienced as Mayweather, or even more?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Murcielago View Post

                    Mayweather & Canelo fought in 2013, Mayweather had been fighting championship level fights since 1998, or about 15 years by the time he fought Canelo. Canelo had only been fighting higher level fighters since 2 years before. Include Mayweather's vast amateur experience. Tell me again just because they had the same number of fights, they had the same level of experience.

                    If I had gone to Mexico in 2012 and fought bums each weekend for a full year and come back with a record of 52-0, would that have meant I was as experienced as Mayweather, or even more?
                    Experience sometimes is overrated. Canelo Alvarez had big fights, coming into the Mayweather fight.

                    People speak about experience in boxing, as if it is the same as a airline pilot flying a plane.

                    Canelo Alvarez had over 40 fights, that is a lot of experience. Plus he was physically ascending.

                    Mayweather even though he was not in his peak, beat Alvarez in both physically and technically.

                    I never saw Alvarez calling for a rematch, not very strongly anyway.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Pago007 View Post
                      Hatton
                      Pac
                      Canelo
                      Prime years is referring to when an athlete is at the peak of his/her ability withing their sport......That being said........you are convinced that Canelo was better in 2013 than he is today?.....lol. And Manny beat out Floyd 3 out 4 years for Fighter of the year from 2006-2009. Around the time people actually was calling for the fight originally. Mayweather fought him 6 years later....
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