Who is the greater boxer: Floyd or Ali?

[street bully]

Don't forget Azumah Nelson.

Yes Azzumah is a ATG and first ballot HOFer.

[-EX-]

give me a break. 'going by the book'....Im a very big Chavez fan, but Im reasonable when it comes to him.

Chavez lost that fight, no questions asked. everyone knows it, you have to count it as a win for Whitaker.


now, this may be an unpopular opinion...but I think Mayweather is more skilled than Ali. yup. not the greater fighter, but more skilled.

No I don't...as much as we wanna give Lennox credit for beating Evander, we have to?

I thought Malignaggi clearly beat Diaz...but can I just say Paulie won and add Diaz to his resume?

And I do think Floyd is better than Ali technically but who's better and has done more isn't even close...

[Jim Jeffries]

Corrales was favored against Mayweather, knocking out JLC, Acelino Freitas, Angel Manfredy, beating Casamayor...I'd call him a HOF. That's the best name in Floyd's resume. Don't ack as if Floyd should be ashamed. JLC at the time was considered the best L.W and Floyd's 1st move was against him, the first fight may have been controversial but Floyd immediately rematched him and proved to be the better fighter.

At 130 alone

Jesus Chavez
Carlos Hernandez
Ganero Hernandez
Angel Manfredy
Carlos Gerena
Corrales

At 135
Ndou
Sosa
JLC

At 140
Chop Chop
Gatti

147
Baldomir
Zab Judah
Hatton

154
DLH

It ain't a bad resume, that's ATG worthy in my opinion. That's pure greatness and guess what?! HE ISN'T DONE!

Corley? Baldomir? Shot, bloated Gatti? Philip Ndou? Are you being serious?

Floyd has fought some good fighters. You denegrate that list by fluffing it.

[Doctor_Tenma]

give me a break. 'going by the book'....Im a very big Chavez fan, but Im reasonable when it comes to him.

Chavez lost that fight, no questions asked. everyone knows it, you have to count it as a win for Whitaker.


now, this may be an unpopular opinion...but I think Mayweather is more skilled than Ali. yup. not the greater fighter, but more skilled.

Nothing wrong in saying that, most would agree I bet. It's VERY dangrous comparing NOW to BACK THEN, people can get very defensive. I said "Corrales at 130, like Foreman was a one punch knock out artists", they got VERY offended.

[street bully]

I said ATG's not very good or great fighters...maybe some consider Azumah an ATG...

Whitaker's resume is better...I aint questioning that...

Nelson is an ATG ex, no one really disputes it.

[Soda Popinski]

This thread goes in with the Tyson fighting a gorilla thread as one of the most in the history of this forum.

[ELPacman]

When Floyd says he is and nobody else does, I kinda think, there is a reason for that.

[Spray_resistant]

You can have your opinion...Corrales is considered one of his best wins...he ran him over...he knocked out Hatton...he ran over Genaro Hernandez...

Wat close fights are you referring to? One fight with Castillo...the Oscar fight was competitive but its clear who the winner was...

C'mon Genaro Hernandez? Corrales was his best win, Hatton a great win also and he decisively beat JLC the 2nd time. That is 3 dominant wins over what I can consider top level opposition.....he may have clearly won other fights against good opposition but I wouldn't call them dominations, just because you pull ahead on a scorecard does not mean you dominated an opponent in my view.....but I guess it is all POV and as far as ATG status that is all that matter is the POV of fans really.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Corley? Baldomir? Shot, bloated Gatti? Philip Ndou? Are you being serious?

Floyd has fought some good fighters. You denegrate that list by fluffing it.

That isn't a bad list at all. Ndou was a good L.W, 31 K.Os, 30 wins I think it was, no pushover. Baldomir also beat Zab Judah, decent win, Baldomir isn't that bad of a fighter.

[Steak]

No I don't...as much as we wanna give Lennox credit for beating Evander, we have to?

I thought Malignaggi clearly beat Diaz...but can I just say Paulie won and add Diaz to his resume?

And I do think Floyd is better than Ali technically but who's better and does more isn't even close...

yes, we can give Lewis credit for beating Holyfield twice.

I dont know for sure about Malignaggi vs Diaz...I missed that fight. but if an overwhelming amount of people(honestly overwhelming, like 10-1 ish) thought that Malignaggi won...I would give him credit for a Diaz win.

theres a very big difference between 'I thought so and so won' and 'Everyone thought so and so clearly won'.

...although, being the Chavez fan I am, Im going to say that although it clearly was a loss for him, the loss is exaggerated. he only lost by a round or 2, he was not 'dominated'.
just clearly beaten.