Who is the greater boxer: Floyd or Ali?

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  • Wiley Hyena
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    #101
    Originally posted by The_Executioner
    Its been done before...I respect what those fighters have done...only haters try to discredit them...Floyd did his thing at 130-140...147 he hasn't taken care of business...but he may be back to do so...

    And we've all seen the ****** threads discrediting those guys...Roy ducked Fighter A, Toney was weight drained, Bernard was green...

    Pacquiao beat old Morales, Hatton was shot, he's scared of black fighters, etc.

    And Bully you seen enuff of chicano79 or wateva trying to discredit Bernard
    Floyd didn't do anything at 140. He dodged Tszyu who ruled that division. After 130 Floyd cynically sold out to the business end of boxing.

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      #102
      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
      Floyd didn't do anything at 140. He dodged Tszyu who ruled that division. After 130 Floyd cynically sold out to the business end of boxing.
      Floyd moved to 140 in 2004...Kosta got ****d by Hatton...who was knocked out by Floyd...

      Add in the fact Kosta doesn't fight on HBO...

      Idiot...

      And Kosta wasn't in his prime anymore anyway...Floyd chose the better fighter at the time...

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      • bojangles1987
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        #103
        Originally posted by The_Executioner
        Floyd fought everyone he needed to fight at 140 and below...

        You wanna discredit it, tell me who he should have fought...
        I'm not saying he wouldn't have beaten them, obviously he easily would have, but he should have fought either Hatton or Tszyu at 140. Those were the two best and he didn't fight either, instead claiming he was the true champion at 140 after beating Gatti despite calling Gatti a paper champion beforehand.

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        • Steak
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          #104
          fighters that Mayweather beat that are worth mentioning:

          -Genaro Hernandez
          -Angel Manfredy
          -Diego Corrales
          -Jesus Chavez
          -Jose Luis Castillo
          -DeMarcus Corley
          -Arturo Gatti
          -Zab Judah
          -Carlos Baldomir
          -De La Hoya
          -Ricky Hatton

          youre grasping for straws if you mention anyone else. those are all the top ten rated fighters he beat.

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            #105
            Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
            Floyd didn't do anything at 140. He dodged Tszyu who ruled that division. After 130 Floyd cynically sold out to the business end of boxing.
            Vince Phillips knocked his ass out, Hurtado damn put up a really good fight and he couldn't even knock out a chinless past his prime Roger Mayweather. PUUUHHLEASE.

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            • Doctor_Tenma
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              #106
              Originally posted by blackirish137
              fighters that Mayweather beat that are worth mentioning:

              -Genaro Hernandez
              -Angel Manfredy
              -Diego Corrales
              -Jesus Chavez
              -Jose Luis Castillo
              -DeMarcus Corley
              -Arturo Gatti
              -Zab Judah
              -Carlos Baldomir
              -De La Hoya
              -Ricky Hatton

              youre grasping for straws if you mention anyone else. those are all the top ten rated fighters he beat.
              No Carlos Gerena, he did beat Jesus Chavez.

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              • Doctor_Tenma
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                #107
                Originally posted by The_Executioner
                Floyd moved to 140 in 2004...Kosta got ****d by Hatton...who was knocked out by Floyd...

                Add in the fact Kosta doesn't fight on HBO...

                Idiot...

                And Kosta wasn't in his prime anymore anyway...Floyd chose the better fighter at the time...
                Fact is, it is impossible to duck someone who is constantly in and out the sport.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987
                  I'm not saying he wouldn't have beaten them, obviously he easily would have, but he should have fought either Hatton or Tszyu at 140. Those were the two best and he didn't fight either, instead claiming he was the true champion at 140 after beating Gatti despite calling Gatti a paper champion beforehand.
                  Hatton's camp didn't want the fight at 140 when Floyd was there...same with Cotto

                  And then he went and beat Hatton anyway...

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                  • The Hammer
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                    #109
                    One of Floyds opponents, Jesus Chavez (1-13-1):

                    http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...4761&cat=boxer

                    Floyd stopped him in the 5th round.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Carnivore
                      One of Floyds opponents, Jesus Chavez (1-13-1):

                      http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...4761&cat=boxer

                      Floyd stopped him in the 5th round.


                      How did you do that?

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